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Title: rating carbon-oxygen double bond stretches
Post by: rleung on February 25, 2006, 10:28:22 AM
Hi,

I am a little confused about this.  Any help would be much appreciated :)  It asks me to list the following in order of decreasing frequency of the carbon-oxygen double bond stretch:

CH3COOCH3
CH3COCl
CH3COH
CH3CONH2

The answer is CH3COCl>CH3COOCH3>CH3COH>CH3CONH2.  I do not seem to understand why CH3COH would come in third on the list.  Since there is absolutely no electron delocalization in order to decrease the double-bond character of the C=O, shouldn't it be hardest to stretch (harder than CH3COCl and CH3COOCH3, both of which can delocalize the electrons of the C=O, decreasing its double-bonded character).  Any ideas?  Thanks so much.

Ryan
Title: Re:rating carbon-oxygen double bond stretches
Post by: movies on February 26, 2006, 01:40:38 PM
Shouldn't it be H3CCO2H?
Title: Re:rating carbon-oxygen double bond stretches
Post by: plu on March 04, 2006, 04:37:49 PM
I believe he's referring to CH3CHO which would have a C=O stretch at a lower frequency than both CH3COOCH3 and CH3COCl.  As to the reason this is this case, I am at a loss as well  :-X
Title: Re:rating carbon-oxygen double bond stretches
Post by: Winga on March 05, 2006, 02:01:31 AM
CH3COCl>CH3COOCH3>CH3COH>CH3CONH2

More electronegative the atom attached to carbonyl carbon, more partial positive charge the carbon carried. Therefore, this increases the charge-charge interaction between C & O and makes the C=O stronger.
Beside the inductive effective, there is also a resonance effect (mesomeric effect), which weaken the C=O bond by delocalization of electron density.

According to your answer, I got this explanation.

1. CH3COH, you can use it as reference.

2. CH3COCl, the inductive effect is greater than resonance effect (resonance is not appreciated, Cl is Period 3, poor overlapping of p-orbitals), so, inductive effect is predominant.

3. CH3COOCH3, the inductive effect is also greater than resonance effect (but resonance is more available, O is Period 2), therefore, overall the inductive effect is still predominant, but less effective than CH3COCl (although O is more electronegative than Cl).

4. CH3CONH2, resonance effect > inductive effective.