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Title: Thallium and Aluminum oxidation states
Post by: Sophia7X on May 24, 2012, 09:05:39 PM

How come aluminum's oxidation number is +3 and thallium's (stable) oxidation number is +1, and they both are in group 3A? It seems like thallium should have the higher oxidation state because it's bigger than aluminum, so wouldn't it be easier to ionize?

Title: Re: Thallium and Aluminum oxidation states
Post by: Schrödinger on May 25, 2012, 12:47:19 AM

google : Inert pair effect

Title: Re: Thallium and Aluminum oxidation states
Post by: AWK on May 25, 2012, 03:43:52 AM

Al also form AL(I) compounds though very unstable (W. Klemm 1948).

Title: Re: Thallium and Aluminum oxidation states
Post by: Hunter2 on May 25, 2012, 06:27:46 AM

This behaviour you can see also in other group in the periodic system. 3. group light elements +3 B, Al, Ga , heavy ones +1 In,Tl, 4. group light elements +4 C,Si, Ge  heavy ones +2 Sn,Pb, 5. group has both, +3 and +5 N,P,As,Sb, heavy ones +3 Bi 6. group light ones O -2  , only with flour +2, heavy one +6 , S, Se, Te, heavy one  +2 Po. 7. group -1 F, other until +7 Cl, Br, I

Title: Re: Thallium and Aluminum oxidation states
Post by: AWK on May 25, 2012, 07:52:41 AM

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6. group light ones O -2  , only with flour +2

KO₂ and KO₃ really exist!

Title: Re: Thallium and Aluminum oxidation states
Post by: Hunter2 on May 25, 2012, 07:59:29 AM

I agree, also H₂O₂ exist. ;)