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Title: Calculate the concentration of I- in a soln..
Post by: killazerg on November 10, 2012, 11:28:37 PM
Calculate the concentration of I- in a solution obtained by shaking 0.20M KI with an excess of AgCl(s)

I uploaded the question to imgur:

http://i.imgur.com/DVZYn.png

I try to solve this as a K = Kf x Ksp problem, but I run into issues when looking for values of Kf since I can't find any for AgI. I'm looking for a conceptual plan to solve this

Here is where I m as of now and maybe someone can point out the mistake

AgCl(s)  ::equil:: Ag+1 + Cl-1
Ksp = 1.77 x 10-10

Ag+1 + I-1  ::equil:: AgI
Kf = ?

AgCl (s) + I-1  ::equil:: AgI + Cl-1
K = Ksp x Kf

K = [AgI][Cl-1]/[I-1]


I-1  ::equil:: AgI + Cl-1
0.20             0       0
-S               +S     +S
0.20-S          S       S

K = S2/(0.2-S)

So I am stuck here because I cannot find Kf for AgI. What am I doing wrong?

Thank you!
Title: Re: Calculate the concentration of I- in a soln..
Post by: Hunter2 on November 11, 2012, 09:54:26 AM
K(AgI) = 1 *10-10 (mol/l)2

Calculate the amount of silver in saturated AgCl. With this value you can calculate the AgI.
Title: Re: Calculate the concentration of I- in a soln..
Post by: Borek on November 11, 2012, 11:58:40 AM
Why are you looking for Kf (whatever it is), instead of Ksp for AgI?
Title: Re: Calculate the concentration of I- in a soln..
Post by: killazerg on November 11, 2012, 03:42:53 PM
Kf is the complex ion formation constant in water at 25oC

I think I may have set up this problem incorrectly. The appendix provides all values of Ksp and Kf so that I can find K. Because the one I am looking for is not there, it may be due to improperly setting up this problem
Title: Re: Calculate the concentration of I- in a soln..
Post by: Big-Daddy on November 12, 2012, 02:37:05 PM
Why use a Kf anyway? You can use the reverse of the Ksp of AgI instead:

AgI (s) -> Ag+ (aq) + I- (aq)

Which is the Ksp of AgI; take 1/this value to find the opposite direction's constant, which is what you want. Then what ... solve the rest, let me know how you get along.