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What is the density?
« on: October 23, 2019, 07:51:25 AM »
What s the Density of  a solution that has  H2SO4 concentration 95.72% and 17.91M?

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Re: What is the density?
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2019, 07:52:34 AM »
Just google density tables for the sulfuric acid.
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Re: What is the density?
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2019, 07:54:29 AM »
Just google density tables for the sulfuric acid.
But how do i solve it without? Can you help me please?

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Re: What is the density?
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2019, 08:05:43 AM »
We can find it with molarity = moles / volume, and concentration = mass / volume.

So let's replace "moles" with "mass" over "molar mass".

molarity = mass / (molar mass . volume). But mass / volume = density. So molarity = density over molar mass.

Replace everything and you will find 1.75 g / mL or 1.75 g / cm^3

But I'm just a beginner. I'm not sure this is right. Perhaps somebody better than I in chemistry can correct me.
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Re: What is the density?
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2019, 08:12:50 AM »
We can find it with molarity = moles / volume, and concentration = mass / volume.

So let's replace "moles" with "mass" over "molar mass".

molarity = mass / (molar mass . volume). But mass / volume = density. So molarity = density over volume.

Replace everything and you will find 1.75 g / mL or 1.75 g / cm^3

Sorry for directly giving you the answer. I didn't know how to guide you to the answer here.
Concentration isn t dissolved mass over mass of the solution?

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Re: What is the density?
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2019, 08:20:32 AM »
Use the definition of percent concentration
p=(m_solute/m_solution)*100
When using mass of 17.91 moles of sulfuric acid you will obtain m-solution will be the volume of 1-liter od 95.71 % of acid. Then you can use definition of density in the simplest way.
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Re: What is the density?
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2019, 08:26:28 AM »
We can find it with molarity = moles / volume, and concentration = mass / volume.

So let's replace "moles" with "mass" over "molar mass".

molarity = mass / (molar mass . volume). But mass / volume = density. So molarity = density over volume.

Replace everything and you will find 1.75 g / mL or 1.75 g / cm^3

Sorry for directly giving you the answer. I didn't know how to guide you to the answer here.
Concentration isn t dissolved mass over mass of the solution?

I always learnt it as mass / volume. Many classmates of mine would always mistake it for density, because the formulae are practically the same.

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Re: What is the density?
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2019, 08:29:02 AM »
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We can find it with molarity = moles / volume, and concentration = mass / volume.

So let's replace "moles" with "mass" over "molar mass".

molarity = mass / (molar mass . volume). But mass / volume = density. So molarity = density over molar mass.

This is a classic case of confusing yourself by using the same word with different meanings.
molarity  = moles solute/mass of solution;  concentration is mass of solute /mass of solution
molarity = (mass solute/molar mass)/volume of solution = concentration/molar mass. Density is not involved.
Density of solution = mass of solution/volume of solution

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Re: What is the density?
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2019, 08:31:03 AM »
We can find it with molarity = moles / volume, and concentration = mass / volume.

So let's replace "moles" with "mass" over "molar mass".

molarity = mass / (molar mass . volume). But mass / volume = density. So molarity = density over volume.

Replace everything and you will find 1.75 g / mL or 1.75 g / cm^3

Sorry for directly giving you the answer. I didn't know how to guide you to the answer here.
Concentration isn t dissolved mass over mass of the solution?

I always learnt it as mass / volume. Many classmates of mine would always mistake it for density, because the formulae are practically the same.
What you said i think it os volume percent and what i say is mass percent,bit i gigured it out thank you guys.Answer is 1.83

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Re: What is the density?
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2019, 08:38:12 AM »
Can you show us how you found the answer?

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