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Offline Bertrand

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How to remove the protective group
« on: January 20, 2020, 04:37:25 PM »
Hello everyone !!!
Please, I would like to know how to remove the N-Boc and the Strt group to NH2 and SH respectively in a non-acidic condition.
My compound is very acid sensitive.
Thanks in advance for your suggestion

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Re: How to remove the protective group
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2020, 05:38:38 PM »
What have you tried so far?

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Re: How to remove the protective group
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2020, 03:19:55 AM »
for a 100 mg scale, I've tried 5mL of CH2Cl2/CF3COOH/ET3SiH in the ratio 7/2/1, but my compound has decomposed.

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Re: How to remove the protective group
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2020, 07:28:14 AM »
Can you post the structure?

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Re: How to remove the protective group
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2020, 08:57:36 AM »
Odd to use Boc and Trt in an acid-sensitive molecule...

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Re: How to remove the protective group
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2020, 11:26:30 AM »
Here is the structure

CC(C)(C)OC(=O)N/N=C/C5(O)Cc4c(OCSC(c1ccccc1)(c2ccccc2)c3ccccc3)ccc(O)c4C(O)C5

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Re: How to remove the protective group
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2020, 05:01:47 AM »
Here is the structure

CC(C)(C)OC(=O)N/N=C/C5(O)Cc4c(OCSC(c1ccccc1)(c2ccccc2)c3ccccc3)ccc(O)c4C(O)C5

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Is there any special reason you use these acid-sensitive protecting groups? The molecule does not look sensitive to base. Also
I think you could use PG that us removed by fluoride instead?

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Re: How to remove the protective group
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2020, 08:57:12 AM »
Thanks! I'll try it

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Re: How to remove the protective group
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2020, 09:21:59 AM »
I think of a SEM-group for the thiol(is the deprotected thiol stable? It looks lika a hemi-thio acetal?) for the amine I think of a trimethylsilyelthyloxycarbonyl.
I looked in Aldrich, they don have 2-(trimethylsilyl) ethoxycarbonyl chloride, you can look in Greens book of protection groups, I think its a usefull way to go.

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Re: How to remove the protective group
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2020, 04:09:19 PM »
The 2-(trimethylsilyl)ethoxycarbonyl group is described in Greens book on protecting groups, here is a reference;

L. A. Carpino,
J.-H. Tsao,
H. Ringsdorf,
E. Fell, and
G. Hettrich,
J. Chem. Soc., Chem. Commun., 358 (1978).

The chloride must be freshly prepared, not stable long period.
There is other variants like the succinimidoyl reagent wich is stable, maybe you can buy this.
Its deprotected with CsF/TBAF

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Re: How to remove the protective group
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2020, 03:53:57 AM »
Hello! Thank you so much... I have the GREENEā€™S PROTECTIVE GROUPS book of PETER G. M. WUT. I will have a look again on how to use the 2-(trimethylsilyl)ethoxycarbonyl.

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Re: How to remove the protective group
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2020, 04:54:09 AM »
Is the thiol correctly drawn, it looks as if you get a hemi-thioacetal if you remove the trityl?

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Re: How to remove the protective group
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2020, 06:38:19 AM »
 when I tried the CH2Cl2 / CF3COOH / ET3SiH mixture for the first time, the Boc group disappeared however, the NMR analysis revealed the presence of the trityl. I think the main issue will be getting rid of the trityl group

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Re: How to remove the protective group
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2020, 01:30:44 PM »
when I tried the CH2Cl2 / CF3COOH / ET3SiH mixture for the first time, the Boc group disappeared however, the NMR analysis revealed the presence of the trityl. I think the main issue will be getting rid of the trityl group

I suppose the thio-trityl ether is more difficult to hydrolyze then a regular trityl-ether. How stable is the thio-hemiacetal in the final product? It looks very acid-labile.

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Re: How to remove the protective group
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2020, 05:42:44 PM »
The thio-hemiacetal is quite stable however I had to work only with dry solvents since the compound has been also shown to be unstable when exposed to prolonged contact with water.

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