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Topic: Aldehyde + Secondary amine reaction = Enamine, but what if β-carbon...  (Read 967 times)

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Offline Nozon

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This is out of my curriculum, but I just started wondering when I drew the reaction of an aldehyde and a secondary amine.

What if the adjacent carbon next to the α-carbon (β-carbon) in the aldehyde molecule does not have any hydrogen bound to it? How would the acid regenerate?

Would it go further out of the carbon chain till it found a carbon with an accessible hydrogen? and would the π-bound then move towards the α-carbon?

My best regards.
(Pictures drawn in order to support what I mean)

Offline Babcock_Hall

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In the top drawing, one of your arrows is drawn incorrectly.  I am pressed for time today; therefore, I cannot discuss it further right now.

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I see - you're right, arrow towards N's cation instead. 
It's okay - also just a question of interest.

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