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Role of NaOH in reduction of benzophenone
« on: March 20, 2021, 04:57:53 PM »
Hello.

I had a lab where I had to reduce benzophenone with NaBH4. After a solution of benzophenone in ethanol (96%) was left to react with NaBH4 (dissolved in ~20 drops of water) for 10-15 minutes, I had to add 6 M NaOH.

What role does the NaOH play? The general mechanism for reduction of a ketone with NaBH4 utilizes an acidic workup to turn the alkoxide intermediate into the final alcohol product.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Role of NaOH in reduction of benzophenone
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2021, 06:29:32 PM »
In my opinion:

4 (C6H5)2CO + NaBH4 + 4 H2O ---> 4 (C6H5)2CHOH + Na(B(OH)4)

NaBH4 is given in excess and NaOH is needed to convert all H3BO3 to Na(B(OH)4).

Maybe Na(B(OH)4) is better than H3BO3, as H3BO3 can dehydrate during distillation:

H3BO3 ---> HBO2 + H2O

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Re: Role of NaOH in reduction of benzophenone
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2021, 06:35:37 PM »
In my opinion:

4 (C6H5)2CO + NaBH4 + 4 H2O ---> 4 (C6H5)2CHOH + Na(B(OH)4)

NaBH4 is given in excess and NaOH is needed to convert all H3BO3 to Na(B(OH)4).

Maybe Na(B(OH)4) is better than H3BO3, as H3BO3 can dehydrate during distillation:

H3BO3 ---> HBO2 + H2O
Hmm, this seems strange.

It seems that NaBH4 decomposes in solvents such as water and ethanol to form hydrogen gas. Are hydroxide ions formed in that process? That would make it easy to explain then.

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Re: Role of NaOH in reduction of benzophenone
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2021, 06:43:42 PM »
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It seems that NaBH4 decomposes in solvents such as water and ethanol to form hydrogen gas. Are hydroxide ions formed in that process? That would make it easy to explain then.

Hydroxide ions doesn't come from hydrolisis of NaBH4 itself, but rather of hydrolisis Na(B(OH)4) as it is salt of strong base (NaOH) and weak acid (H3BO3):

NaBH4 + 4 H2O ---> Na(B(OH)4) + 4 H2

Na(B(OH)4::equil:: NaOH + H3BO3

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Re: Role of NaOH in reduction of benzophenone
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2021, 07:00:32 PM »
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It seems that NaBH4 decomposes in solvents such as water and ethanol to form hydrogen gas. Are hydroxide ions formed in that process? That would make it easy to explain then.

Hydroxide ions doesn't come from hydrolisis of NaBH4 itself, but rather of hydrolisis Na(B(OH)4) as it is salt of strong base (NaOH) and weak acid (H3BO3):

NaBH4 + 4 H2O ---> Na(B(OH)4) + 4 H2

Na(B(OH)4::equil:: NaOH + H3BO3
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks.

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