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Does the substitution of the nucleophile matter during an SN2 reaction?
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lord farquaad
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Does the substitution of the nucleophile matter during an SN2 reaction?
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SN2 is likely to occur when the alkyl halide has primary substitution. But will SN2 still occur if the nucleophile has tertiary substitution? I was surprised that the explanation for this reaction (attached) was that it occurred through SN2 mechanism. I thought the fact that O is so sterically hindered would prevent SN2.
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Re: Does the substitution of the nucleophile matter during an SN2 reaction?
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January 24, 2022, 10:47:39 AM »
I remember looking up the behavior of
tertiary
-butoxide as a nucleophile one time. It is a good nucleophile against iodomethane. Do you think that there could be a reaction competing with the S
N
2 process?
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January 24, 2022, 03:49:51 PM »
Sn1 goes via a carbocation, the primary halide can hardly not form this. What will happen with a bulky nucleophile is that the reaction is slow or does not occur at all or you get elimination.
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January 24, 2022, 05:04:29 PM »
When iodomethane is the electrophile and the solvent is DMF, the rate constant for tertiary-butoxide is about twice that of ethoxide (Daley and Daley, p. 537). Unfortunately, I don't have this book, and I don't know what the rates are with other alkyl halides. The text on this page implies that
tert
-butoxide reacts slowly with other alkyl halides. There was a thread here that mentioned this in 2016.
https://www.chemicalforums.com/index.php?topic=88451.0
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January 24, 2022, 11:59:43 PM »
Iodomethane is less sensitive to this problem, its so small. tert-butoxide is a stronger base and probably a more powerfull nucleophile then ethoxide. Sodium ethoxide has pka 15,5 potassium tert-butoxide has 17.
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