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Standard pH question.
« on: March 09, 2007, 01:37:05 PM »
I have the following question to answer:

Calculate the pH of a solution formed by mixing 172.0 mL of 0.100 M NaF and 208.0 mL of 0.025 M HCl.

The information I can take away from this right away is that the dominant species in the solution are H+ and F-. I can then calculate their initial concentrations. However, at this point I am stuck. How am I to determine how much HF will be reformed in the solution?

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Re: Standard pH question.
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2007, 02:05:46 PM »
Assume F- is stoichiometrically protonated by added HCl. Then it is Henderson-Hasselbalch equation.
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Re: Standard pH question.
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2007, 06:09:44 PM »
Does this look appropriate? I only have one possible submission left on this particular problem, and I don't want to miss points just for something minor (or for something major, I suppose).

[NaF] = 0.100M(172mL/380mL) = 0.0453M NaF
[HCl] = 0.025M(208mL/380mL) = 0.014M HCL

HCl lmiting reagent, therefore:
  NaF      +    HCl ---->    HF    +    NaCL
0.0453M     0.014M           0            ----
-0.014M     -0.014M      +0.014M

And [HF] = 0.014M
Then..
   HF   <------> H+ + F-
0.014M               0      0
   -x                  +x    +x
0.014-x                x      x

Ka=[H+][F-]
         [HF]
7.2e-4 = x2
      0.014 - x

x = 2.8e-2
pH = 1.55

Sound okay?

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Re: Standard pH question.
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2007, 06:46:16 PM »
Nope. It is not HF that dissociaties now, you have a buffer solution (HF from protonation and excess F-).

You start with
172 mL of 0.1M NaF - 17.2 mmol
208 mL of 0.025M HCl - 5.2 mmol

Assuming protonation is stoichiometric:
F- + H+ -> HF

you have after the reaction completion:
F- - 17.2-5.2 = 12 mmol
HF - 5.2 mmol

Put these into HH equation. You don't need anything more. You even don't need final volume, as it cancels out in the expression under logarithm:

pH = pKa + log([acid]/[base])

[acid] = nacid/Vfinal
[base] = nbase/Vfinal

[acid]/[base] = nacid/nbase
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Re: Standard pH question.
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2007, 08:48:31 PM »
Alright, so one final check:

pH = pKa + log([base]/[acid])
pH = -log(7.2e-4) + log(12/5.2)
pH = 3.51

Sound fine?

EDIT: Wonderful, it worked! Thanks!!
« Last Edit: March 09, 2007, 11:27:49 PM by thegoodaaron »

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