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Offline JoachimF

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Good evening!

I hope this question isn't too stupid, but I am supposed to find the pH-value in a 0,010 M solution of CH3COONa. I figured I need the kPb to solve this, and in my book, the basicity of CH3COONa isn't listed, though, the basicity of CH3COO- is. I checked on wikipedia, and found that the basicity is the same for CH3COO- and CH3COONa. Surely there must be something very fundamental I have missed here? Why does the two have the same basicity? Doesn't the Na+-ion make any difference on the basicity?

Thanks in advance!

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Joachim

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Re: Why does sodium acetate and acetate ion have the same basicity?
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2007, 01:21:53 PM »
In solution, sodium acetate dissociates into sodium ions and acetate ions.

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Re: Why does sodium acetate and acetate ion have the same basicity?
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2007, 02:07:40 PM »
Thank you, I knew I was missing something very fundamental:P

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Re: Why does sodium acetate and acetate ion have the same basicity?
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2007, 02:13:05 PM »
By the way, just to make sure: This means that the pH-value of a solution with CH3COO-, is the same as a solution with CH3COONa (taking into account that concentration, etc. is the same)?

Edit: That must be wrong?

If I am to find the pH value of CH3COONa, I would find the molar mass of CH3COONa, find how many mol's, then make a 2nd degree polynomial equation with x, the amount of mol and the basicity of CH3COO-? Does that sound right?  ???

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Re: Why does sodium acetate and acetate ion have the same basicity?
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2007, 02:41:18 PM »
That sounds about right.

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