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Offline omfgwtfcamelbbq

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Hydrogen Structure
« on: July 22, 2007, 08:35:39 AM »
Im just wondering about this in concern to writing answers.

Is the Hydrogen atom just a proton and an electron... or is there more than a proton in the nucleus.

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Re: Hydrogen Structure
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2007, 01:35:43 PM »
Just a proton and electron.
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Re: Hydrogen Structure
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2007, 05:16:32 PM »
Unless it's one of the uncomon kind of hydrogen that has 1/2 neutrons in it.
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Re: Hydrogen Structure
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2007, 05:29:56 PM »
In general there is one proton and one electron.

But it can be also:
proton + neutron + electron
proton + 2 neutrons + electron
proton + 3 neutrons + electron
proton + 4 neutrons + electron
proton + 5 neutrons + electron
proton + 6 neutrons + electron
proton + 7 neutrons + electron

I think it ends here for now, perhaps Mitch will have something to add ;)
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Re: Hydrogen Structure
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2007, 08:45:06 PM »
Well, if you are going to try and confuse the guy, who just asked a simple question, with so much information, then why limit the discussion to just protons, neutrons and electrons? Why not include all baryons?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_baryons
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Re: Hydrogen Structure
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2007, 08:58:35 PM »
Thank you for opening up that particular can of whoop-ass, enahs.  I admire you for that.

Proton + Electron.
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Re: Hydrogen Structure
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2007, 09:13:13 PM »
You are welcome. I started out making a joke about the hadrons, but misspelling it to something naughty (d<->r),  but decided to tame it down.
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Re: Hydrogen Structure
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2007, 11:27:31 PM »
I meant about telling off Borek
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Re: Hydrogen Structure
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2007, 07:18:06 AM »
im just wondering is it wrong to say for example HCl is an acid because in a water solution the hydrogen donates its nucleus to the water molecules.

Or is it just best to say proton instead of nucleus. At high school level do you think they will mark incorrectly for not acknowledging sub atomic particles?
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Re: Hydrogen Structure
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2007, 08:40:15 AM »
You may refer to just proton in most cases, but it is worth of remembering that protium is not the only hydrogen isotope.
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Re: Hydrogen Structure
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2007, 05:23:34 AM »
Quote from: Borek on July 23, 2007, 08:40:15 AM
You may refer to just proton in most cases, but it is worth of remembering that protium is not the only hydrogen isotope.

ok thanks alot
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