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confusing stoic problem
« on: September 20, 2007, 04:42:29 PM »
When M2S3 (s) is heated in air, it is converted to MO2 . A 4.00 g sample of M2S3 shows a decrease in mass of 0.227 g when heated in air. What is the average atomic mass of M.

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Re: confusing stoic problem
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2007, 04:45:36 PM »
The answer is supposed to be 183 but I have no idea what my teacher is doing? Could somebody please help me?

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Re: confusing stoic problem
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2007, 04:54:55 PM »
Please read forum rules. Start with the reaction equation.
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Re: confusing stoic problem
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2007, 05:36:23 PM »
What did I wrong?

It says that M2S3 combines with air. What is the chemical formula for air?

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Re: confusing stoic problem
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2007, 06:05:45 PM »
No such thing as a chemical formula of air. However, your sulfide can react only with oxygen.

You must show that you have tried.
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Re: confusing stoic problem
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2007, 06:26:35 PM »
So M2S3 + O2 ----> MO2 + SO ?

Ive tried this problem many times - take my word for it. Its has been bothering me for weeks and I've been looking for an explanation everywhere i can.

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Re: confusing stoic problem
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2007, 06:37:27 PM »
Sulfur in sulfides is bivalent, just as oxygen in most oxides - that should help you determine formula of MxOy. What sulfur oxides do you know?
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Re: confusing stoic problem
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2007, 06:58:20 PM »
Do you mean its SO2? And I'm not trying to find the formula of MO2...only the average molecular weight of M

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Re: confusing stoic problem
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2007, 07:08:59 PM »
Yes, it is SO2. You can't do the question without knowing molar mass of the oxide, that in turn requires you to know its formula.
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Re: confusing stoic problem
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2007, 07:21:12 PM »
OK, I think I have a vague notion of what to do next. Do I write out a stoic equation with the mass of M as an unknown and solve it as an algebra equation. Am I allowed to do that? And when my chemistry teacher did the problem, he did something about "cross-multiplying" the grams and the molecular weights. I completely lost him there. Do you have any idea what he is talking about.

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Re: confusing stoic problem
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2007, 02:29:12 AM »
OK, I think I have a vague notion of what to do next. Do I write out a stoic equation with the mass of M as an unknown and solve it as an algebra equation. Am I allowed to do that?

Sounds about correct - you have to solve algebraic equation for molar mass. Try and show what you get.
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