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Help with chemical equations
« on: December 02, 2007, 04:45:40 PM »
Wow my teacher really sucks at teaching chemical equations...and he wants us to write Total Ionic Equations and net ionic equations...and I have no idea what I'm doing.
First we're suppose to find this:
(NH4)2S(aq) + ZnCl2(aq) --> ________ + ZnS(s)
So in the line I put: (NH4)2Cl2(aq)

Is that right? And how can you tell if it's right? I'm so lost with this. And then he says write the total ionic equation and I HAVE NO IDEA how to do that...

Please HELP


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Re: Help with chemical equations
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2007, 05:23:21 PM »

Dear Jonjon1324;

Your “Input” to the line is in principal correct, but a Chemist would write it as:
2NH4Cl(aq)    -  like twice a NH4Cl(aq)
This may also be a Hint/Startingpoint for the ionic equation, because in water:   
NH4Cl  ---->  (NH4)+  + Cl-

If you are doing all analog and insert it in “your chemical equation” you should result in the (?total?) ionic equation.

I hope this may be of help to you.

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Re: Help with chemical equations
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2007, 05:30:33 PM »
So if NH4Cl  ---->  (NH4)+  + Cl-, then it would be 2NH4Cl --> (NH4)2+  +  2Cl-?

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Re: Help with chemical equations
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2007, 05:37:35 PM »

Dear Jonjon1324;

Not exactly! More precise would be: 
2NH4Cl(aq)    ----> 2(NH4)+  + 2Cl-


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Re: Help with chemical equations
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2007, 05:42:35 PM »
Oh...so...would this be correct?

Total Ionic Equation: (NH4)- (aq) + 2S+ (aq) + 2ZN+ (aq) --> 2Cl- --> 2(NH4)+ (aq) + 2Cl- + Zn(s) + S(s)

Net Ionic Equation: (NH4)- (aq) + 2S+ (aq) + Zn2+ (aq) --> 2(NH4)+ (aq) + Zn(s) + S(s)

Spectator Ions: Cl-

Okay somehow that seems wrong.

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Re: Help with chemical equations
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2007, 05:54:55 PM »

Dear Jonjon1324;

You scrambled a little bit the number of ions!
Take care that you not lose one, or you generate one.
The total ionic equation needs also to be balanced (If you count all + and with their multiplier you must get zero!)

But for the start it looks not so bad.
In the ionic equation you can trop the (aq), and ZnS as a solid is not ionic anymore.

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Re: Help with chemical equations
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2007, 05:56:58 PM »
I don't understand  :(


Dear Jonjon1324;

You scrambled a little bit the number of ions!
Take care that you not lose one, or you generate one.
The total ionic equation needs also to be balanced (If you count all + and with their multiplier you must get zero!)

But for the start it looks not so bad.
In the ionic equation you can trop the (aq), and ZnS as a solid is not ionic anymore.

Good Luck!
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Re: Help with chemical equations
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2007, 06:01:20 PM »
The total ionic equation needs also to be balanced (If you count all + and with their multiplier you must get zero!)

Not exactly - there must be the same total charge on the left and on the right. It doesn't mean equation sides must be neutral.

Zn + Cu2+ = Zn2+ + Cu
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Re: Help with chemical equations
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2007, 06:04:41 PM »
Ah..okay I still really don't get what I'm doing. Like what exactly are total/net ionic equations?  ??? What am I supposed to finding? and Why? and HOW?

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Re: Help with chemical equations
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2007, 06:13:44 PM »
Dear Jonjon1324;

(Thank you Mr. Borek for help.)

Your total ionic equation must be electrical neutral.

Let’s start this way:
(NH4)2S(aq)   ------->  2(NH4)+  + S2-

(Here all positive charges are compensated by the negative ones, on both sides. Or with other words: The net charge is on both sides the same.)

Do you think you can complete now the total ionic equation?
May this be of help to you?

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