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Offline deadhead01

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Help with a book?
« on: May 07, 2008, 04:54:10 AM »
I am writing a book, or getting ready to. I want to keep it as factual as possible. I want to make the chemical stronger then it already is, how would I do this to where if a Chemist looked at it they would believe that this is a formula of this strength? The drug I am talking about is anadrol (Oxymetholone). I was thinking to change the image below to make it seem higher in strength.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Oxymetholone.svg
Can I change it around to where it would seem a said amount of times strong? How do I do this? I have absolutely no knowledge of Chem really, thanks for your help in advanced. If you can please tell me how to change the Anobloic and Androgenic effects to it to make it stronger.
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Re: Help with a book?
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2008, 02:43:45 PM »
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Anyone want to try to help me? Or point me the direction of a link I could read on the subject? Thanks all!
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Re: Help with a book?
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2008, 03:02:29 PM »
I don't really think you can make it stronger.  If you change it around, you change the chemical itself & it will be completely different. 

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Re: Help with a book?
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2008, 03:08:28 PM »
I suppose you could argue that you could do whatever you want to the molecule - after all, the impression I get from your preamble is that the book is a work of fiction, and short of actually working in the steroid field, who's going to really know what you're doing  ;)

If you really want to know, you may have to contact Alaven Pharmaceutical or similar, and I don't think that the sort of information you're after is the sort of information that is readily available to the man on the Clapham omnibus.

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Re: Help with a book?
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2008, 04:15:43 PM »
Thanks for all the replys everyone!
I will try to call the company today to see if they can lead me in the right direction.

When I was researching it, I found the inactive ingredient, there below.

Inactive: lactose, magnesium stearate, povidone, starch.

I couldn;t find a list of active ingredients, only active I found was something this below.

Active: Oxymetholone (17β-hydroxy-2-(hydroxymethylene)-17-methyl-5α-androstan-3-one)

Also, I found that this drug does not bond well with the Androgen receptors, if it did bind with the receptors better, would it make the drug stronger? How about if the inactive ingredients  were removed?

I want to make the substance itself stronger, like, for example, 25 Mg of this substance I am talking of would be the equivalent in strength to 200 Mg of todays substance. This is only a example though, I will use different strength through the series.

Thank you all for the help, and any suggestions you have help a lot. I am only using the Oxymetholone as a base to make this from, the research I have done about steroids says that it is the most harmful and the strongest, so it seems to be a good place to start from.

This book is a work of fiction, it is sey so years into the future about year 2020. This will play a large part in this book. I want to make it as factual as possible, I have written one other book before, I am STILL recieving letters out how wronge I am and how to make it right. The last book was a fan made Star Trek book. I want to make this one as factual as I can.

Any suggestions will be very helpful :)
Also, anyone that does help with this I will place your name in the book, because you did help create it.
Thanks
Jered

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Re: Help with a book?
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2008, 04:32:02 PM »
Inactive substances are just to help you use correct amount of the active component, to get it stable, to help make tablet, to make it easier to swallow and so on.

To play it safe you better try not to get too deeply into chemistry. You may state something general, like that the research carried on the natural steroids derivatives gave much more potent drugs.
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Re: Help with a book?
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2008, 05:06:19 PM »
Thanks borek. I was thinking I could even say its a new steroid/SARMs (selective androgen receptor modulators) type of hybred. I don't want to go into a lot of detail, but I do want to go into a bit, because it will be a big focus on the book.
Thanks for the reply Borek.
Jered

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