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Which species dissociation to ethyl acetate
« on: March 21, 2009, 04:40:02 AM »
Hello Organic Chemists,

For the reaction carried out in basic solution, which one of the following species dissociaties to ethyl acetate?


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Re: Which species dissociation to ethyl acetate
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2009, 08:10:51 AM »
Those compounds are very difficult to isolate. Such a strange question to ask indeed...

I really don't want to give an answer to this question, but I would mechanically say option 2, others don't "look" anywhere "near" to ethyl acetate.

Note also that your ester would hydrolyze to the carboxylate.

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Re: Which species dissociation to ethyl acetate
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2009, 12:28:39 PM »
Actually I have worked them all in a basic solution and I am leaning towards d. Here's why:

       OH                                                   O-                                             O
       l                                                      l                                                ll
CH3-C-O-CH2CH3  + OH- ----------> CH3-C-O-CH2CH3 + OH- ---------> CH3-C-O-CH2CH3
       l                                                      l                                      THE DESIRED PRODUCT                                               
       H                                                     H

Is this mechanism entirely possible? 

Thank you for your help.

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Re: Which species dissociation to ethyl acetate
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2009, 01:08:10 PM »
Actually I have worked them all in a basic solution and I am leaning towards d. Here's why:

       OH                                                   O-                                             O
       l                                                      l                                                ll
CH3-C-O-CH2CH3  + OH- ----------> CH3-C-O-CH2CH3 + OH- ---------> CH3-C-O-CH2CH3
       l                                                      l                                      THE DESIRED PRODUCT                                               
       H                                                     H

Is this mechanism entirely possible? 

Thank you for your help.

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Not really, hydride is not a particularly good leaving group - do you see hydride loss when a nucleophile attacks an aldehyde? That's why 2 is a fair bit better, chloride is a much better leaving group.

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