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Chemistry Help-Gr.11
« on: April 01, 2009, 01:45:52 PM »
Explain why NBr5 does not exist.


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Re: Chemistry Help-Gr.11
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2009, 02:14:17 PM »
You should draw the lewis structure for nitrogen and bromine.

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Re: Chemistry Help-Gr.11
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2009, 02:40:14 PM »
Nitrogen could not bond to 5 Bromine because after the third bromine, nitrogen becomes full. succeeds octet.

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Re: Chemistry Help-Gr.11
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2009, 08:20:11 PM »
Yup!

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Re: Chemistry Help-Gr.11
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2009, 08:07:35 AM »
Nitrogen could not bond to 5 Bromine because after the third bromine, nitrogen becomes full. succeeds octet.

This is probably a good enough answer for Grade 11 chemistry.  Nitrogen does have an oxidation state of 5+, as in (NO3)-, so it is capable of making five bonds.

In addition, NBr3 is not stable.  It does not exist any long period of time.

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Re: Chemistry Help-Gr.11
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2009, 11:25:50 AM »
No, nitrogen makes 4 bonds in NO3-.  It is a 2nd row element, and for most purposes (only because there may be some exotic chemistry I'm unaware of), nitrogen is unable to become hypervalent and have more than 8 electrons.

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Re: Chemistry Help-Gr.11
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2009, 12:54:10 PM »
No, nitrogen makes 4 bonds in NO3-.  It is a 2nd row element, and for most purposes (only because there may be some exotic chemistry I'm unaware of), nitrogen is unable to become hypervalent and have more than 8 electrons.

My information comes from Creighton University website.  I wasn't implying nitrogen would have more than 8 electrons, but have an oxidation state of 5+ (thereby losing electrons).

http://mattson.creighton.edu/InorganicChemWeb/


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Re: Chemistry Help-Gr.11
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2009, 01:35:44 PM »
Yes, but you are mixing oxidation state and bonds formed.  I understand that it has an oxidation state of +5, but that doesn't mean it has 5 bonds to it.

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