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Strong acid + Strong base at really low concentrations
« on: April 07, 2009, 09:40:43 AM »
I was given the following problem:

Suppose 100.0 mL of 2.00 x 10-7 M hydrobromic acid is mixed with 170.0 mL of 1.20 x 10-7 M LiOH.  What is the pH?

I did the problem out and all I could come up with was a pH of 5.17, which doesn't really make sense to me since it is the LiOH that is in excess.

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Re: Strong acid + Strong base at really low concentrations
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2009, 09:53:28 AM »
Show your work. Your result is, in fact, wrong. Calculate an exces of base, OH- concentration, then pOH and finally pH.
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Re: Strong acid + Strong base at really low concentrations
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2009, 10:30:19 AM »
You have to account for water autodissociation.
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Re: Strong acid + Strong base at really low concentrations
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2009, 10:51:25 AM »
Borek is, of course, right.
You should use an eqution of type x(x+c)=Kw where x is the OH- or H+ concnetration from water and c is the excess OH- concnetration after neutralization.
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Re: Strong acid + Strong base at really low concentrations
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2009, 08:40:00 PM »
Okay so:

2.00 x 10-8 mols HBr
minus
2.04 x 10-8 mols LiOH

is 4.00 x 10-10 OH-
/
.27 L
=
1.481 x 10-9

1.00 x 10-14 = [x ] [x + 1.481 x 10-9
0 = x2 + 1.481 x 10-9x - 1.00 x 10-14
x = 9.93-8

-log(9.93-8) = pH = 7.003

Does that look right?

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Re: Strong acid + Strong base at really low concentrations
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2009, 03:05:42 AM »
Does that look right?

Yes and no.

Yes, as its a correct method and pH 7.00 is a correct answer.

No, as 9.93-8 is not 9.93x10-8 ;)
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