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Offline Big-Daddy

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Temperature Dependence of E°
« on: February 18, 2014, 12:00:59 PM »
We know the equation ΔS°=nF*(dE°/dT). I read that the temperature dependence of E° is given by the Gibbs-Helmholtz equation which involves ΔG°, but can't we just use ΔS°=nF*(dE°/dT), separate the variables and integrate? We'll get

ΔS° * (T2-T1) = nF * (E°T2 - E°T1)

unless I made a stupid mistake.

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Re: Temperature Dependence of E°
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2014, 11:20:36 AM »
   There are two approaches for this problem:
                 - you either write Δ°G=Δ°H-TΔ°S and hence E°T=-Δ°H/nF + Δ°S*T/nF
                 - or differentiating the first equation you obtain d(Δ°G)/dT= -Δ°S , and whence, knowing that Δ°G=-nEF, that dE°/dT = Δ°S/nF. Integrating from T=298 to T ( solving the differential equation) gives the explicite T dependence. No difference between them.

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Re: Temperature Dependence of E°
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2014, 01:22:53 PM »
   There are two approaches for this problem:
                 - you either write Δ°G=Δ°H-TΔ°S and hence E°T=-Δ°H/nF + Δ°S*T/nF
                 - or differentiating the first equation you obtain d(Δ°G)/dT= -Δ°S , and whence, knowing that Δ°G=-nEF, that dE°/dT = Δ°S/nF. Integrating from T=298 to T ( solving the differential equation) gives the explicite T dependence. No difference between them.

The methods are equivalent of course. Thanks. The first one is just using E°T1 and ΔS° to calculate ΔH°, and then with both ΔS° and ΔH° you can calculate ΔG° at the required temperature T2 and thus find E°T2.

So you agree with my end result in the first post?

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Re: Temperature Dependence of E°
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2014, 02:03:38 PM »
Yes, your result seems correct.
   Anyway, if we had a wide range of temperatures, say , ΔT>100K, only the second method would be viable, because Δ°H, as well as Δ°S, would have an explicit dependence of temperature.

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