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Electrochemistry
« on: February 19, 2010, 09:18:05 PM »
Hi everyone,
I have some questions regarding electrochemistry, hope everyone will help me with this :)
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MnO4- + 8H+ + 5e --> Mn2+ + 4H2O E = 1.51V
Fe3+ + e --> Fe2+ E = 0.77V
Suggest why permanganate isn't a suitable oxidizing agent for the quantitative estimation of Fe2+ in the presence of HCl but becomes so if sufficient Mn2+ and PO43-are added into the solution( Hint: PO43- forms a complex with Fe3+, thereby stabilizing it)
I have no idea for this question, since the reduction potential of the estimation reaction for Fe2+ is positive, i.e. spontaneous, based on the titration, we can find out the concentration of Fe2+.
2/ It's often found that O2 is a slow oxidizing agent. Suggest a mechanistic explanation that takes into account the two standard potentials:
O2(g) + 4H+(aq) + 4e --> 2H2O(l) E = 1.23V
O2(g) + 2H+(aq) + 2e --> H2O2(aq) E = 0.7V
Is the question here asking us to find out the mechanism for two half reactions ? If so, I really don't know how to do ???
3/ Rate of reaction of reduction [RuIVO(bipy)2(py)]2+ to [RuIII(OH)(bipy)2(py)]2+ is strongly influenced by the change of the solvent from H2O to D2O. What does this suggest about the mechanism of the reaction ?
Like question 2, I also have no idea for this question.
Any help would be highly appreciated.
Thank you so much :)
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Re: Electrochemistry
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2010, 02:44:51 AM »
Hi everyone,
I have some questions regarding electrochemistry, hope everyone will help me with this :)
1/
MnO4- + 8H+ + 5e --> Mn2+ + 4H2O E = 1.51V
Fe3+ + e --> Fe2+ E = 0.77V
Suggest why permanganate isn't a suitable oxidizing agent for the quantitative estimation of Fe2+ in the presence of HCl but becomes so if sufficient Mn2+ and PO43-are added into the solution( Hint: PO43- forms a complex with Fe3+, thereby stabilizing it)
I have no idea for this question, since the reduction potential of the estimation reaction for Fe2+ is positive, i.e. spontaneous, based on the titration, we can find out the concentration of Fe2+.

Using HCl is not helpful, because Cl- can be readily oxidized by MnO4-. This way, you will be reporting a greater titre value since MnO4- will be used up for both the oxidation of Cl- and Fe2+.
But in the presence of PO43-, Fe3+ is stabilized. This probably ensures that the oxidation of Fe2+ is preferred over the oxidation of Cl-.
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Re: Electrochemistry
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2010, 03:33:44 AM »
Thank you for question 1 :)
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Re: Electrochemistry
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2010, 04:26:05 AM »
But in the presence of PO43-, Fe3+ is stabilized. This probably ensures that the oxidation of Fe2+ is preferred over the oxidation of Cl-.

I was taught that it is presence of Mn2+ that lowers oxidating potential of permanganate to the point where chlorides are not oxidized to chlorine, while PO43- is there to ensure iron (III) is in the form of a colorles phosphate complex, not in the form of yellow chlorides complex. That's to make end point detection easier. But obviusly stronger complexing agent (PO43- vs Cl-) will make the potential at which oxidation of Fe2+ proceeds a little bit lower as well.

http://www.titrations.info/permanganate-titration

Also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_isotope_effect
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