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carbocation
« on: July 24, 2005, 05:14:56 AM »
I am starting organic chemistry this semester and just need someone to confirm what I think is the right way to attack a question i have.

I have to draw an energy profile including the reactant and product, and the transition state or intermediate for the reaction:

1-bromo-3-methylbutane with NaOH(aq)/heat----->

Im finding it hard to decide whether or not its a Sn2 or Sn1 reaction, am i right to say that the reactant is a
3o carbocation therefore it would be a Sn1 reaction.

and is this the correct structure for 1-bromo-3-methylbutane?

H2C-CH-CH2-CH2-Br
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        CH3

Any hint of help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re:carbocation
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2005, 06:37:07 AM »
There is no way to form a tertiary carbocation from the reactants you provided. You have a correct structure by the way. Look at the other reactant, it will give a clue that more may be involved then simple SN1 or SN2. You are using a base afterall.
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Re:carbocation
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2005, 07:20:50 AM »
Thanks mitch for your reply, I only thought it was a n Sn1 on Sn2 because the question states that its a substitution reaction??

what else would it be?

im realy lost with this so ill shove my nose into a book and do some more readin!

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Re:carbocation
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2005, 08:08:08 AM »
I know the reaction involved is written out like this:

       CH3                                               CH3
        |                                 HEAT           |
CH3-CH-CH2-CH2-Br + NaOH-------->CH3-CH-CH2-CH2-OH + NaBr

My guts tellin me that it is a Sn2 substitution with one transition state and no reaction intermediate.

please tell me if im right cause i cant see any other way to look at it.

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Re:carbocation
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2005, 08:12:28 AM »
sounds fine. Also read about E2 reactions too, before class.
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