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Offline Telamond

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Topicity
« on: January 05, 2012, 08:04:17 AM »
Hello.
I have a question about topicty, about homotopic, enantiotopic and diastereotopic. I'd like to confirm some of the things that I've read in my course book.

Homotopic protons are interchangable by a Cn-operation.
Enantiotopic protons are interchangable by a Sn-operation (or mirror-plan S1)
Diastereotopic are the remaining protons.

So marking all the enantiotopic, homotopic and diastereotopic protons.
Structure A
Homotopic: none
Enantiotopic, b&b', c&c' (same protons after reflecting in the mirror-plane of the structure)
Diastereotopic: b&c, b'&c'


Structure B
Homotopic: a&a, b&b, c&d', d&c', e&f', f&e'
Enantiotopic: c&c', d&d', e&e', f&f', c&d, e&f, c'&d', e'&f'
Diastereotopic: none

Somehow I think that I might not understand the topicity at all...


« Last Edit: January 05, 2012, 08:42:13 AM by Telamond »

Offline fledarmus

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Re: Topicity
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2012, 02:25:37 PM »
As I understand it, the question is, what would happen to your molecule's stereochemistry if one hydrogen in a collection of hydrogens in identical environments was changed to something else?

The possibilities are:
1) that there is no change - replacing either hydrogen leads to identical molecules. Homotopic.
2) that you form enantiomers - replacing one hydrogen gives an S isomer, replacing the other gives an R isomer from something that wasn't previously chiral. Enantiotopic.
3) that you form diastereomers from a molecule that already has a chiral center - for example, replacing one hydrogen gives an R,S isomer and replacing the other hydrogen gives an R,R isomer. Diastereotopic.

Why does it even matter?
1) Homotopic hydrogens will react identically regardless of the steric effects of any reagents or solvents.
2) Enantiotopic hydrogens will usually react identically, but may be induced to react differently by providing a chiral environment - this can be done with chiral solvents, chiral salts, or chiral additives, and may allow you to specifically replace a single hydrogen to give a chiral product.
3) Diastereotopic hydrogens can sometimes react differently in achiral solvents with achiral reagents, due to the fact that the rest of the molecule is providing the chirality. The pair of diastereotopic hydrogens is chemically different, due to the three dimensional structure of the rest of the molecule.

So for example, the three hydrogens on the methyl groups of methyl ethyl ketone are homotopic - there is no way to selectively react with one of the three hydrogens, they are chemically indistinguishable in any environment. The methylene group, however, has two enantiotopic hydrogens - if you change one of them, you make an S enantiomer, if you change the other you make an R enantiomer. If you are really clever and use the appropriate chiral reagents, it is possible to selective replace only one of the two hydrogens, making only the
R product for example, instead of a racemic mixture.

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Re: Topicity
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2012, 02:57:00 PM »
I'm reading through this chapter about Stereochemistry and I fully understand everything that you've mentioned fledarmus. But when I try to apply this knowledge in the context of these questions from old exams I get and I'm unsure if it's correct.

If I apply what you said on A for an example.
Promoting either Hb or Hc to D, would give us two diastereoisomers. Then those two protons are diastereotopic.
Promoting either Hb or Hb', would give us two enantiomers, thus they are enantiotopic.


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