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A 100.-mL sample of solution contains 10.0 mmol of Ca2+ ion. How many mmol of solid Na2SO4 must be added in order to cause precipitation of 99.9% of the calcium as CaSO4? The Ksp of CaSO4 is 6.1X10–5. Assume the volume remains constant.
   a)   61.0
   b)   71.0
   ANS:   b)   71.0

I keep getting the answer as (a) 61, but the proper answer is 71!!! Help me please....

My calculations:

[Ca2+]= 0.01 mol/ 0.1 L= 0.1 M
(100%-99.9%)/100 x 0.1 M= 0.0001

6.1 x 10^-5 = 0.0001 [SO42-]

[SO42-] = 0.61 M

moles: Na2SO4 = 0.61M x 0.1L= 0.061 mol
mmoles: Na2SO4 x 1000= 61 mmol


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Re: How many moles of salt need to be added to form precipitate (Equilibirum)
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2010, 08:52:43 AM »
You have correctly calculated concentration of sulfate LEFT IN SOLUTION.
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Re: How many moles of salt need to be added to form precipitate (Equilibirum)
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2010, 06:03:22 PM »
ok, I think I have it, unless it is a fluke.

Using an ICE table

           Ca2+            SO42-
I           0.1                x
C         -.0999            -.0999
E         .0001             .61

solving for x = .61 + .0999 = 0.71

moles: Na2SO4 = 0.71M x 0.1L= 0.071 mol
mmoles: Na2SO4 x 1000= 71 mmol


Is there a more efficient way of calculating this?

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Re: How many moles of salt need to be added to form precipitate (Equilibirum)
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2010, 06:30:28 PM »
Seems to me like the result is close by accident.

How much precipitate and what is its composition?
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Re: How many moles of salt need to be added to form precipitate (Equilibirum)
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2010, 06:55:09 PM »
99.9% of the Ca2+ ions precipitate, so:

0.999 * 10mmol = 9.99 mmol

So you will have 9.99mmol of CaSO4 as a solid.

not sure where you're going with this?

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Re: How many moles of salt need to be added to form precipitate (Equilibirum)
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2010, 07:03:33 PM »
Where does SO4 in CaSO4 came from?

Note: could be your approach was in some twisted way correct, but there really is no need for ICE table, it is much simpler.
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Re: How many moles of salt need to be added to form precipitate (Equilibirum)
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2010, 07:32:09 PM »
Good, I like simple calculations :)

When you add the solid Na2SO4 it dissolves and you are left with Na+ and SO42- ions in the solution.

These SO42- ions then attach to the Ca2+ ions to form CaSO4 solid.

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Re: How many moles of salt need to be added to form precipitate (Equilibirum)
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2010, 12:26:58 AM »
ha!

I just realised how simple it is!

Whilst we have 61mmol of SO4 in solution, we have already caused the precipitation of 9.99mmol of Ca2+

Hence, the answer = 61mmol + 9.99mmol = 71mmol

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Re: How many moles of salt need to be added to form precipitate (Equilibirum)
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2010, 03:48:29 AM »
Right :D
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