December 29, 2024, 04:19:05 AM
Forum Rules: Read This Before Posting


Topic: Rather new to chemistry - helpwith carboxyl group addition  (Read 2810 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline somethingtoxic

  • Regular Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 18
  • Mole Snacks: +1/-0
Rather new to chemistry - helpwith carboxyl group addition
« on: January 04, 2011, 02:57:25 AM »
Hello everybody! I've been studying chem for just a little while now, and I would like to know what some answers to this question would be:

If one was to add a carboxyl group to a racetam structure to render it an amino acid, where would the most beneficial place be? Here are a few examples of the racetam family structures:

Racetam structure base: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2-Pyrrolidone

Analogs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracetam

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aniracetam

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxiracetam

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nefiracetam

So much thanks in advance, this is beyond my level of understanding.

Offline ptryon

  • Regular Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 53
  • Mole Snacks: +3/-1
Re: Rather new to chemistry - helpwith carboxyl group addition
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2011, 03:19:47 AM »
Hi somethingtoxic

Why do you ask? Are you planning to synthesis an amino acid from one of these compounds? If so I am not able to help. To convert 2-pyrrolidone to an amino acid would require more than simply adding an carboxyl group somewhere in the compound:
In addition to the carboxylic acid functional group, an amino acid also contains:

(1) A generic R-group (which in nature can be one of 20 different groups- ranging from a simple hydrogen to groups with fused, aromatic ring systems)

(2) An amine group (-NH2)

(3) A hydrogen atom

Each of these groups is joined to a central, chiral carbon atom (see link). 2-pyrrolidone is essentially an amide group contained in a 5-membered ring; in order to convert this to an aminoacid you would have to break the ring and then find a way of adding the appropriate substituents to one of the carbons. Or there might be a way to substitute 2-pyrrolidone into an amino acid... but then that would be cheating... Can any real organic chemists help here??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amino_acid

Offline somethingtoxic

  • Regular Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 18
  • Mole Snacks: +1/-0
Re: Rather new to chemistry - helpwith carboxyl group addition
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2011, 03:32:38 AM »
Thanks!

I just ended up adding the carboxyl to position 4 to render it an amino. As far as its binding characteristics, who knows?

Sponsored Links