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Offline nonlinear

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Acid Strength / Orbitals question
« on: May 04, 2011, 11:02:57 PM »


So... all I can get is that for the conjugate base of each, the lone pairs would reside in a sp3 and a p (?) orbital respectively... and p orbitals are higher in energy than sp3 orbitals are... I don't think this is an adequate explanation though. Can somebody explain this to me? Thank you!

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Re: Acid Strength / Orbitals question
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2011, 02:21:15 AM »
What about the other things present in the molecule? Does any of those orbitals overlap with the ones of nitrogen?

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Re: Acid Strength / Orbitals question
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2011, 12:26:28 PM »
I'm not sure what you mean... the molecule on the right has resonance involving the nitrogen atom, but the N on the left molecule doesn't...? Could you elaborate, please?

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Re: Acid Strength / Orbitals question
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2011, 02:27:14 PM »
One explanation would be that in aniline (conj. base of left molecule) the nitrogen lone pair (in a p-orbital) is delocalized into the benzene ring stabilizing it compared to pyridine (conj. base of left molecule) whose nitrogen lone pair is in a sp2-hybrid orbital and is not delocalized. In other words, the pyridine nitrogen lone pair is more availble for sharing since it is not delocalized.

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