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Offline rapilch

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Organic synthesis reaction with PCl5
« on: May 08, 2011, 09:23:39 AM »
Does anyone what is occurring here? Im not sure how to show arrow pushing/intermediates.

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Re: Organic synthesis reaction with PCl5
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2011, 12:13:05 PM »
Given the starting materials and the products, I am doubtful of the first step, except for the acid. Then it looks like formation of a bromoimidate, cyclization, and tautomerization.
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Re: Organic synthesis reaction with PCl5
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2011, 04:25:30 PM »
My attempt:


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Re: Organic synthesis reaction with PCl5
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2011, 05:43:43 PM »
What you have drawn is somewhat reasonable. I doubt a chloride would add to a carboxylic acid, but I understand you are trying to make an acid chloride. Since the starting material is also listed as the ester, I didn't know formation of the acid chloride was necessary and I did not expect that PCl5 would convert that ester to its acid chloride. I am not saying it couldn't, but it isn't high on my list of probable reactions. If one heated the heck out of it, then okay.

I am skeptical of the cyclization of the nitrile with the acid chloride. I prefer to simply proton the nitrile and add bromide to it to form a bromo imidate. Now the nitrogen is sp2 and I think better aligned to add to a C=O group, either an ester or an acid chloride (if I understand the question correctly).
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Re: Organic synthesis reaction with PCl5
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2011, 05:21:33 PM »
Ok so I am presuming the the methyl groups off the carbonyl in the middle of the reaction are chlorine atoms?
Also I do not see and Ester anywhere? Am I ignorant? I do see two carboxylic groups, which surely can be converted to acyl chlorides with PCl5...?

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Re: Organic synthesis reaction with PCl5
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2011, 12:19:13 PM »
Structure 8, E = COOMe
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Re: Organic synthesis reaction with PCl5
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2011, 10:34:24 PM »
. ahh the read the original post shutdown procedure... sorry about that.

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