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orbitals
« on: July 12, 2011, 07:26:42 PM »
Does atomic orbitals cover themselves?

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Re: orbitals
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2011, 07:58:19 PM »
no they does not

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Re: orbitals
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2011, 09:05:36 PM »
no they does not

How can I than understand the picture of orbitals, that are ussualy shown?

If s orbital is a sfere,with the nucleus in the center, and p orbital in that 8 shaped orbital, how is  that possible?

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Re: orbitals
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2011, 05:03:08 AM »
Well I mean, my problem is, that if I look pictures of each orbitals(1s,2s,2p,...) i cant imagine how can I combine them so that they wont cover?

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Re: orbitals
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2011, 07:16:27 PM »
http://chemlinks.beloit.edu/Stars/pages/orbitals.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HAtomOrbitals.png

They do cover eachother.  Remember, these are "probability density charts" meaning, graph the wave function of the electron and see where it is around the nucleus.

In the case of "s" orbitals, it is a sphere, with equal probability to be a certain distance from the nucleus. 

When you move onto the "p" orbital, the mathematical wave function for that atomic orbital, the "p" orbital, turns out to be that tear drop shape.

Now, when you "add" S and P orbitals together, you get hybrid orbitals (sp,sp2,sp3) see Molecular Orbital Theory

This guy has pretty good videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2E7loCd-aM

What grade are you in?


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Re: orbitals
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2011, 04:05:35 AM »
Hm, does orbital 2s cover orbital 1s completly?

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Re: orbitals
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2011, 02:17:46 PM »
Whay does electron in ana atom move at first place?

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