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Offline Even

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Help with some base
« on: July 13, 2011, 12:48:06 AM »
I have a question about some weak base and sodium salt.

Why can't Acetate ions exist on their own in a bottle on the shelf? Why is it always attached to some cation like sodium? Is it possible to make an acetate ion solution?  ???

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Re: Help with some base
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2011, 01:01:36 AM »
Acetate is an anion. This is negative charged.  Any negative charged Ion needs a positive charged one so the molecule gets neutral. So you need a cathion like sodium to get it. So there is no possibility to have only Anions in an bottle.
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Re: Help with some base
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2011, 01:12:28 AM »
sodium acetate isn't a "molecule" but instead an ionic compound.  A single NaAc would be referred to as a "formula unit" but this is just semantics really.  :-)

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Re: Help with some base
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2011, 01:17:52 AM »
Acetate is an anion. This is negative charged.  Any negative charged Ion needs a positive charged one so the molecule gets neutral. So you need a cathion like sodium to get it. So there is no possibility to have only Anions in an bottle.

Thanks, but why must we  keep the species neutral in order to store it?

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Re: Help with some base
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2011, 05:32:29 AM »
All compounds are neutral from outside. It is not possible to store charged ions.

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