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I am having an issue with this problem.

A piece of gold with a mass of 45.5 g and a temperature of 80.5 C is dropped into 192 g of water at 15.0 C. What is the final temperature of the water?

I did the Q1 = Q2 equation:
M x C x (ti - tf) = M x C x (ti + tf)
(45.5g)(0.129J/g C)(80.5 C - tf) = (192g)(4.18J/g C)(15.0 C + tf)
5.8695(80.5 C - tf) = 802.56(15.0 C + tf)
472.495 - 5.8695tf = 12038.4 + 802.56tf
808.4295tf = 11565.905
tf = 14.31 C

That cannot be the right answer because the answer has to be between 15.0 and 80.5 .
PLEASE HELP because this question has been bothering me for a week.

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Re: Calculation problems with Heat lost = Heat gained problem. PLEASE HELP
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2011, 03:30:52 PM »
Your equation should be:

M x C x (tf - ti) = - M x C x (tf - ti)

On the left side you put heat given away by the piece of gold and on the right side the heat absorbed by water:

M x C x (tf - 80.5) = - M x C x (tf - 15)

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Re: Calculation problems with Heat lost = Heat gained problem. PLEASE HELP
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2011, 03:38:19 PM »
It gives me the same answer...

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Re: Calculation problems with Heat lost = Heat gained problem. PLEASE HELP
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2011, 04:57:13 AM »
The correct equation should be


MAu x CAu x (80.5-Tf) = MH20 x CH20 x (Tf - 15)

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Re: Calculation problems with Heat lost = Heat gained problem. PLEASE HELP
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2011, 02:47:32 PM »
M x C x (80.5 - tf) = M x C x (tf - 15)
(45.5)(0.129)(80.5 - tf) = (192)(4.18)(tf - 15)
5.8695(80.5 - tf) = 802.56(tf - 15)
472.495 - 5.8695tf = 802.56tf - 12038.4
12510.895 = 808.4295tf
15.48 C = tf

I still don't think that's right. The temperature of the gold wouldn't dramatically drop like that... Would it?

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Re: Calculation problems with Heat lost = Heat gained problem. PLEASE HELP
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2011, 03:04:22 PM »
Sounds fine. Remember there is ~4 times as much water (by mass) as gold, and the heat capacity of water is ~30 times that of gold. You would expect the temperature of the gold to drop far more than the temperature of the water would rise.
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Re: Calculation problems with Heat lost = Heat gained problem. PLEASE HELP
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2011, 03:09:10 PM »
Thank you very much.

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