December 27, 2024, 04:32:28 PM
Forum Rules: Read This Before Posting


Topic: Solution/ vapor pressure question  (Read 6298 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Foobarz

  • Regular Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 73
  • Mole Snacks: +0/-2
Solution/ vapor pressure question
« on: December 20, 2011, 07:41:24 PM »
 If this NH4Cl solution is assumed to be ideal and is completely dissociated into ions, calculate the vapor pressure of this solution at 29.0 °C. (the molality of the solution from the previous question is 4.76 m)

Ok, so looking at the answer, the problem makes no sense at all. It goes into Raoult's law, which I understand. Raoult's law needs to know the vapor pressure of the pure solvent. The question (in the answer) just gives out the vapor pressure of water as 29.8 mmHg. But still, how in the world am I supposed to figure out the vapor pressure of water at 29 C using just the information provided? Or was it in an error? Yet this is an old 1976 B AP Chemistry Free Response question. . .

Offline UG

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 822
  • Mole Snacks: +134/-15
  • Gender: Male
Re: Solution/ vapor pressure question
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2011, 08:00:49 PM »
Perhaps you need to use the Clausius-Clapeyron equation

Offline Foobarz

  • Regular Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 73
  • Mole Snacks: +0/-2
Re: Solution/ vapor pressure question
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2011, 08:24:23 PM »
OH MY THAT Is going to be a tedious task. . .

Offline Foobarz

  • Regular Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 73
  • Mole Snacks: +0/-2
Re: Solution/ vapor pressure question
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2011, 11:57:15 PM »
Darn it the vapor pressure I got was 34.5 mmHg. That's not what the explanation uses; it uses 29.8 mmHg. I still don't get how that was received. Could anyone help me?

http://sentinelchem.wikispaces.com/file/view/Properties+of+Solutions+notes.pdf
It's on this website. Search for 1976 B.

Offline UG

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 822
  • Mole Snacks: +134/-15
  • Gender: Male
Re: Solution/ vapor pressure question
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2011, 12:09:22 AM »
Would you mind showing us your working and what data you used?

Offline Foobarz

  • Regular Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 73
  • Mole Snacks: +0/-2
Re: Solution/ vapor pressure question
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2011, 12:33:20 AM »
Well, dont know how to type it out so here. . .

Offline UG

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 822
  • Mole Snacks: +134/-15
  • Gender: Male
Re: Solution/ vapor pressure question
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2011, 01:50:29 AM »
Hmmm... that seems weird. I used the saturated vapour pressure of water at 25oC (23.8 mmHg) and got an answer around 29.6 mmHg

Offline Foobarz

  • Regular Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 73
  • Mole Snacks: +0/-2
Re: Solution/ vapor pressure question
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2011, 01:24:01 PM »
Yes, that is quite odd. . .
Water does boil at 760 mmHg right?
« Last Edit: December 21, 2011, 01:44:02 PM by Foobarz »

Offline Foobarz

  • Regular Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 73
  • Mole Snacks: +0/-2
Re: Solution/ vapor pressure question
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2011, 01:59:23 PM »
AHHH I'm so ANGRY WHAT DID I DO WRONG??|
It makes no sense. . .

Sponsored Links