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Reaction mechanism, ap chem
« on: December 31, 2011, 07:30:03 PM »
Having trouble with a rate law question on a mechanism...

Step 1: N2H2O2  ::equil:: N2HO2- + H+ (fast equilibrium)
Step 2: N2HO2-  :rarrow: N2O + OH- (slow)
Step 3: H+ + OH-  :rarrow: H2O (fast)

According to the answer key, it is:
rate = k[N2H2O2]/[H+]
But I am leaning toward: rate = k[N2H2O2]
Arguing with an answer key, yeah I know that's futile lol, but I'm skeptical.

I tried this two ways.

First way...
I combined steps 2 and 3. OH- is an intermediate, right? So my combined equation is:  N2HO2- + H+ :rarrow: N2O + H2O
Then I used the fast equilibrium to substitute in the reactants for the above equation.
Final equation: N2H2O2  :rarrow: N2O + H2O

Is this acceptable?



Second way...
I made an equilibrium expression using the fast equilibrium step.
Keq = [N2HO2-][H+]/[N2H2O2]
so [N2HO2-] = Keq [N2H2O2]/[H+]
(slow step 2) rate =k[N2HO2-]
I plugged in for [N2HO2-]... Rate = k(Keq [N2H2O2]/[ H+])

So why is the answer rate = k[N2H2O2]/[H+]?
Isn't k, the constant for rate laws, completely different from the equilibrium constant Keq?
What am I missing here? Please help. Sorry if this is a little on the longer side :P
« Last Edit: December 31, 2011, 07:42:12 PM by Sophia7X »
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Re: Reaction mechanism, ap chem
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2011, 10:32:47 PM »
Second way...
I made an equilibrium expression using the fast equilibrium step.
Keq = [N2HO2-][H+]/[N2H2O2]
so [N2HO2-] = Keq [N2H2O2]/[H+]
(slow step 2) rate =k[N2HO2-]
I plugged in for [N2HO2-]... Rate = k(Keq [N2H2O2]/[ H+])

So why is the answer rate = k[N2H2O2]/[H+]?
Isn't k, the constant for rate laws, completely different from the equilibrium constant Keq?
What am I missing here? Please help. Sorry if this is a little on the longer side :P

This is the way I would have gone about answering this problem. Often in these type of problems, they just make the value 'k' equal to 'k x Keq' ie, they substituted kKeq with k into the equation rate = k(Keq [N2H2O2]/[ H+]). Although they may generally call it k' or something other than k to show that it has been 'modified'

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Re: Reaction mechanism, ap chem
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2012, 02:52:10 PM »
Combine the reactions 1 and 2 but you must have on your mind that the total reaction  speed of N2HO2- is zero (from intermediate complex theory). By this way, we have:
k1[N2H2O2]-k-1[N2HO2-][H+]-k2[N2HO2]=0. Then, we found the [N2HO2-] equal to:
[N2HO2-]=k1[N2H2O2]/k-1[H+]+k2. Step 2 is the slow step, so k2<<k-1[H+]. Then:
[N2HO2-]=k1[N2H2O2]/k-1[H+]=K[N2H2O2]/[H+], where K=k1/k-1 (equilibrium constant). The rate law will include the slower step from the mechanism. So:
rate=k2[N2HO2-]=Kk2[N2H2O2]/[H+]=k'[N2H2O2]/[H+]

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Re: Reaction mechanism, ap chem
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2012, 07:01:44 PM »
Thanks to both of you. Cleared up some confusion.
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