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Offline Babcock_Hall

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preparing HCl in nitromethane
« on: March 16, 2012, 12:47:34 PM »
We are attempting to remove a 4-methoxybenzyl protecting group from a carboxylic ester.  One protocol we found (Stelekatos, J. Chem. Soc. C, 1970, 964-967) uses anhydrous HCl in nitromethane.  I cannot find this reagent commercially, but someone suggested using nitromethane, acetyl chloride, and methanol or ethanol to produce it in situ.  Does anyone have any thoughts on this?  Thank you.

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Re: preparing HCl in nitromethane
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2012, 01:26:34 PM »
An interesting approach. I have used acetyl chloride to generate a 1M HCl solution in methanol, but I've never tried using acetyl chloride and methanol to generate a 1M solution in anything else.

I believe typically you bubble anhydrous HCl (purchased as a gas in a cylinder) through the nitromethane to generate the reagent.


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Re: preparing HCl in nitromethane
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2012, 01:36:12 PM »
An interesting approach.  I suppose that one would have to titrate the solution, at least in an approximate way.  I doubt that it needs to be better than plus or minus 10% for our application.

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Re: preparing HCl in nitromethane
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2012, 01:48:03 PM »
If you route the outflow through an efficient condenser and add the HCl slowly enough that you aren't blowing out the nitromethane, you can get a fair approximation of the concentration from the increase in mass of the solution. Nitroethane, with a higher boiling point, is even better for this purpose. Titrations can be a little tricky since the nitromethane isn't extremely water soluble and you end up with an extra layer to deal with.

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Re: preparing HCl in nitromethane
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2012, 04:21:23 PM »
That strikes me as my least favored method to cleave this protecting group. Could someone suggest an alternate from one of the protection-deprotection books and/or explain why the nitromethane method is preferred?
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Re: preparing HCl in nitromethane
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2012, 05:18:07 PM »
I was looking for something a little less exhaustive, but it will do. If it were me, I'd try the 10% TFA in dichloromethane. Evaporate at the end et voila.
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Re: preparing HCl in nitromethane
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2012, 09:47:14 AM »
I was looking for something a little less exhaustive, but it will do. If it were me, I'd try the 10% TFA in dichloromethane. Evaporate at the end et voila.
orgopete,

Thanks.  I have seen TFA and formic acid used in the literature, and we are exploring those reactions, party with the compound of interest and partly with a model ester.  What has puzzled me about these methods is that the products would seem to be the 4-MB esters of trifluoroacetic or formic acid, respectively.  Therefore, when one removes the volatiles, I wonder whether or not the equilibrium will be displaced by the removal of the volatile acid and shift back toward reactants.  Maybe I am thinking about it incorrectly.  I also wonder if this question should be posted in a separate thread.

BTW, our compound of interest has a pyridinium group, so I have not tried hydrogenation as a deprotection strategy.  I have not seen oxidation used to deprotect when 4-MB protects an ester (as opposed to an ether), but I will look through the article kindly cited by fledarmus.
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