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Offline SagentCool

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where is all the black chemists at?
« on: February 16, 2012, 11:51:36 PM »
i been looking up all these great chemist recently... and when i look at there groups, the people they work with the undergrads and the post-doctoral guys... there mostly asian, indian and white.... i rarely ever see a black chemist in these groups working for the big time guys

im just wondering where are all the black chemists at....

is there just not alot of black chemist that graduate college per year or something, it seems like there are barely any in these groups..

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Re: where is all the black chemists at?
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2012, 08:28:59 AM »
Your perception is selective.  There have been black people in just about every industrial lab I've worked in.  True, there may have been only one black person per lab of twenty individuals, and many more white people or Asians, but that's not what you've said.
Hey, I'm not judging.  I just like to shoot straight.  I'm a man of science.

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Re: where is all the black chemists at?
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2012, 10:27:11 AM »
Why don't you start a trend ;D

We always need more chemists, whether they're white, black, purple, or green.  A good chemist is a good chemist regardless of color.

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Re: where is all the black chemists at?
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2012, 12:54:25 PM »
I think one issue is that black BS graduates in the sciences and technologies are not particularly common, and they have been even less common in the past. This means that there are relatively few black scientists in industry, and a lot of pressure on industry to remedy the situation. Consequently, a graduating black BS scientist with the high levels of skills required to get into a good graduate program will be snapped up by industry.

I have only know a handful of black graduate students in chemistry, and they were without exception high performers who had very specific career goals in mind and had turned down lucrative job offers at the BS level to get advanced degrees and even more lucrative job offers at the PhD level. Several of the white students in the same programs either hadn't yet decided what they wanted to do with their lives or had been unable to find a job with just a BS in chemistry, although the rest were also very highly motivated students that didn't want the kinds of jobs they could get with a BS and wanted to run their own research programs, either in industry or academia.

The Asian and Indian population in grad school seemed to have a different mix of motivations. There were some that had come to the United States for college on a student visa, which would expire if they didn't continue being a student and they had gone to grad school either until they found a job or decided what they wanted to do with their life. There were some that had come to the United States for a world class education and would be returning to their home countries with a virtual certainly of a job as a professor or researcher in their field. And there were some that had come to the United States for the higher salaries here, but couldn't get a job or assistance with immigration without getting an American graduate degree first. (These were the immigrant students, those who had gone at least through high school in a foreign country - the ones that had come to the United States earlier seemed to be very much like the white population in motivation.)

Just some random thoughts from my own observations and friendships - your mileage may vary

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Re: where is all the black chemists at?
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2012, 01:19:41 AM »
I've worked with some really good African American chemists in my day's but there is quite a few in history as well who have made some pretty important achievements. Like for example:

Patricia Bath - invented the Cataract Laser Probe for removing cataracts.
George Washington Carver - agricultural chemist who discovered industrial uses for crop plants such as sweet potatoes, peanuts and soybeans. And ways to improve the soil.
Marie Daly- first African American woman to earn a Ph.D. in chemistry.
Norbert Rillieux- invented a revolutionary new process for refining sugar. Rillieux’s most famous invention was a multiple effect evaporator, which harnessed steam energy from boiling sugarcane juice, greatly reducing refining costs.

I'm sure there's many others that I'm forgetting but the point is there has been a fair amount of African American chemists in the past I would say the most contributing factor is that racism has only seem to be reduced within the past 20-30 years of course we still have racism which is a sad factor its not nearly as influencing as it was in the past.

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