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Offline RobertT

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pV=nRT question
« on: January 10, 2010, 11:33:02 PM »
6.00g of helium gas was blown into a fairground balloon. On the day, the temperature was 28 degrees Celsius and the pressure inside the balloon was 103.4 kPa. Assuming it is infinitely elastic, to what volume did the balloon inflate.

Firstly i did n(he) = m/M = 6/8(Because it is He2) which came out to be 0.75mol
I then proceeded to transpose the formula into V=nRT/p = 0.75 x 8.314 x 301 / 103.4
The final answer i got was 18.15L but the answer in the book says it is 36.3 L

I'm not sure if i calculated the Mol incorrectly or not.
Appreciate any help.
Cheers, Rob

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Re: pV=nRT question
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2010, 12:04:05 AM »
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Because it is He2
Are you sure?

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Re: pV=nRT question
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2010, 12:06:24 AM »
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Because it is He2
Are you sure?

Ahhh, i know where i went wrong now, I forgot that He was initially a gas and i thought it would be set up like N2 gas. Thanks for the clear up, found out where i went wrong. Thanks again.

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Re: pV=nRT question
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2010, 12:09:53 AM »
Why is He not like N2?
This is a basic concept you should understand

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Re: pV=nRT question
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2010, 12:29:55 AM »
I was thinking of placing the Helium in the same form as Nitrogen Gas, as in N2, i wasn't thinking so i put the whole Helium formula down as He2 instead of He. This made the Molar mass 8 instead of 4 changing the mol from 0.75 to 1.5. This is what i meant.
Thanks again for helping me out, I'll keep that concept in mind.
Cheers, Rob.

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Re: pV=nRT question
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2010, 12:34:19 AM »
I am sorry that I was not making my point clear

What is there about He Ne Ar that is different than H2 O2 N2

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Re: pV=nRT question
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2010, 01:09:39 AM »
I am sorry that I was not making my point clear

What is there about He Ne Ar that is different than H2 O2 N2

Ahh, He, Ne and Ar are all noble gasses, meaning the outershell is full, therefore it is extremely difficult to make them react unlike oxygen, nitrogen, etc.

I'm guessing what you're getting at is, He is just He on it's own as a gas, because it doesn't need to react with any other substance.

I totally forgot about this. Hehe guess i need to go back to the basics if I want to be fully prepared for Unit 3/4 Chem.
I've said this a lot, but thanks again for the help. Really appreciate it :)

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Re: pV=nRT question
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2010, 01:21:13 AM »
most excellent

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