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The Universe
« on: September 04, 2012, 09:58:17 PM »
 We know that the universe revolves around the sun.  And we see the same sky every night.  So, what does the universe look like on the other side of the sun?  Any theories out there?

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Re: The Universe
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2012, 10:55:37 PM »
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We know that the universe revolves around the sun.

Not many noted scientist would agree

When you start with a premise that is a fallacy the results are inaccurate.

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Re: The Universe
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2012, 11:30:14 PM »
If the premise is that the universe revolves around the sun is a fallacy.  Then is it just the Milky Way that revolves?  But it still does not say what can be see in the universes that is always oppsite of earth.

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Re: The Universe
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2012, 02:34:18 AM »
Rotation that you see is an effect of Earth rotation. Earth orbits around the Sun, rotating around its own axis.
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Re: The Universe
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2012, 08:13:10 AM »
I think you need to do a bit more research on the shape of the universe and the position of the earth in it. Here is one place to start that might address your second point of confusion - the movement of the sun in relation to the galaxy in which it is located - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milky_way - and you should follow the included links to examine the movement of the Milky Way in relation to its super-galactic neighbors and the cosmos in general.

The universe does not revolve around the earth, or the sun, or the Milky Way, or the Local Group, or the Virgo Supercluster, or really anything else. Everything moves in relation to other objects, and you have a lot of reading in front of you to begin tracking them.

As for what the "universe" (I presume you actually mean the night sky?) would look like from some point on the opposite side of the universe from earth, yes, it is possible to calculate that. The relative motions of stars are very slow on a human time scale, and at least the stars visible from earth have been fairly thoroughly mapped in three dimensions. From that mapping, a star chart centered at any point in the universe can be calculated using some basic spherical geometry and optical physics. You can do this yourself - pick a point in the universe, start looking up star coordinates, sizes, and light outputs, and calculate where they would appear in the night sky of your selected point and how bright they would be.

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Re: The Universe
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2012, 11:59:23 PM »
Goes to show what chemists know about astronomy and physics.  ::)  The heliocentric model of the universe contains 9 crystal spheres suspended in a medium of luminiferous aether. These spheres rotate giving us the perspective of seeing a total universe - Mercury, Venus, Earth, Moon, Mars, Saturn, Jupiter, Neptune, and the Stars. On the opposite side of our sphere is a planet called Antichthon, and just like Earth it is supported on the backs of four elephants who stand on the back of a giant turtle, A'Tuin.
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Re: The Universe
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2012, 03:25:28 AM »
Complete nonsense. A'Tuin is busy somewhere else and Solar system planets are not visible from its world.
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