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Balancing unusual redox reaction
« on: September 30, 2012, 05:38:43 PM »
Hello guys, i got stuck on a problem

Na2S2O3 + H2O + Cl2 ---> Na2SO4 + NaCl + HCL

S2O32- + 5H2O -----> 2SO42- + 10H+ + 8e |x1
      Cl2 +2e     ----->  2Cl-                              |x4

S2O32- + 5H2O + 4Cl2 ----> 2SO42- + 10H+ + 8Cl-

And it's not correct and I can't find any mistakes.. Any help would be appreciated..
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Re: Balancing unusual redox reaction
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2012, 05:54:30 PM »
You half equations and final ionic equation look fine to me (but please format your formulas properly). The problem is that this:

Na2S2O3 + H2O + Cl2 ---> Na2SO4 + NaCl + HCL

is not correct.

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Re: Balancing unusual redox reaction
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2012, 06:00:23 PM »
It's from the book, so i doubt that it could be a mistake.
Actually, I got two of them which is impossible to balance for me ;]

In2S3 + HNO3  :rarrow: In(NO3)3 + NO2 + H2SO4 + H2O
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Re: Balancing unusual redox reaction
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2012, 06:07:58 PM »
It's from the book, so i doubt that it could be a mistake.

It can't be balanced the way it is proposed. Try H2SO4 instead of Na2SO4.

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In2S3 + HNO3 = In(NO3)3 + NO2 + H2SO4 + H2O

But this one is not even difficult if you ask me. S2- gets oxidized, NO3- gets reduced. That's all.

Please learn how to format your formulas, it is really just a click away.
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Re: Balancing unusual redox reaction
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2012, 07:02:24 PM »
In2S3 + HNO3  :rarrow:  In(NO3)3 + NO2 + H2SO4 + H2O

S2- + 4H2:rarrow:  SO42- + 8H+ + 8e- | x 1

NO3- + 2H+ + e-   :rarrow:  NO2 + H2O |x8


S2- + 4H2O + 8NO3- + 16H+  :rarrow: SO42- + 8H+ + 8NO2 + 8H2O

simplify:

S2- + 8NO3- + 7H+  :rarrow: SO42- + 8NO2+ 4H2O

and it's not correct, can't understand what i am doing wrong...

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Re: Balancing unusual redox reaction
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2012, 02:31:59 AM »

S2- + 8NO3- + 7H+  :rarrow: SO42- + 8NO2+ 4H2O


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Re: Balancing unusual redox reaction
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2012, 07:28:27 PM »
Hello guys, i got stuck on a problem

Na2S2O3 + H2O + Cl2 ---> Na2SO4 + NaCl + HCL


The hydrolysis reactions:
1. 2 Cl2 + 2 HOH <--> 2 HOCl + 2 HCl

Also, decompositions:
2. Na2S2O3 + 2 HCl → 2 NaCl + S + SO2 + H2O

3. Na2S2O3 +  H2SO3 →  Na2SO3 + S + SO2 + H2O

A REDOX:
4. Na2SO3 + 2 HOCl --> 2 HCl + Na2SO4

Adding equation (1), (2) (3) and (4) and cancelling common compounds:
 2 Na2S2O3 + 2 Cl2  + H2O --> 2 NaCl + 2 HCl + Na2SO4 + 2 S + SO2

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