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Offline laura.g.berger

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Hydrogen+ making two bonds. It is possible?
« on: November 06, 2013, 10:08:00 AM »
Hello, people!
I would like to know if is possible to Hydrogen+ make two bonds with two atoms, of the same element or not.
Ex: X-H-X or Y-H-Y

I believe for this kind of chemical reaction be possible, Hydrogen must be ionized, like H+, right?

It is hard to make a chemical reaction to obtain this kind of molecule?

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Re: Hydrogen+ making two bonds. It is possible?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2013, 10:50:36 AM »
Stable? No.  But there are well-known transient, short-lived examples, including H3.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triatomic_hydrogen

In space, the ion is quite abundant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H3%2B
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Re: Hydrogen+ making two bonds. It is possible?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2013, 11:48:05 AM »
Or look into diborane, or similar?

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Re: Hydrogen+ making two bonds. It is possible?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2013, 11:59:34 AM »
Right, forgot about the boranes, although these are still ultimately a 1:1 ratio between H and B for the central hydrogens.  Nice call, though, sjb.
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Re: Hydrogen+ making two bonds. It is possible?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2013, 12:00:33 PM »
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Re: Hydrogen+ making two bonds. It is possible?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2013, 01:43:55 PM »
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Re: Hydrogen+ making two bonds. It is possible?
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2013, 08:39:01 AM »
This molecule is stable?

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Re: Hydrogen+ making two bonds. It is possible?
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2013, 09:57:27 AM »
Diborane, dialane and the gallium analogue are very reactive.  I believe the alane and gallium versions have only been isolated at low temperatures in sold matrices. 
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