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Offline weyrich

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Homework Help :\
« on: December 08, 2013, 11:47:15 PM »
Hey all. I was given this molecule



and need to propose a synthesis and the only carbon sources are I can use are these



I don't know where to start and any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Mod edit: IMG tages. Dan.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2013, 02:42:22 AM by Dan »

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Re: Homework Help :\
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2013, 01:17:52 AM »
you have to show some attepts (forum rule)

hint: try to cut the molecule into smaller ones which you know how to synthetise or you have in your carbon source list.
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Re: Homework Help :\
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2013, 01:30:42 AM »
I was thinking of turning the ethyl benzene into Acetophenone and then adding it to the pyrrole+benzene but I can't think of the reagents needed. I could somehow get the ethyl into a 2-ethylbenzeneol (probably not what its called, OH group in the middle of the attached ethyl) and then change that to the double bonded O with  H2CrO4 but again, not sure how to add the OH: perhaps H20 but not sure how to get it to bond specifically to that one spot on the ethyl.

Adding that group then to pyrrole+benzene i was thinking SnAr but whats to stop it from then adding to the C-2 or C-4 of benzene?
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Re: Homework Help :\
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2013, 01:48:23 AM »
You have the heterocycle you need in your list of reagents, no need to synthesise it

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Re: Homework Help :\
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2013, 01:56:26 AM »
Aye, Im not adding pyrrole to benzene I just don't know the name for it so I called it pyrrole+benzene

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Re: Homework Help :\
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2013, 01:05:53 PM »
So I have the ketone+SOCl2 to add a Cl to it. Then add benzene and AlCl3 to add the compound to benzene. Not sure if correct but i have no idea how to then add that to the pyrrolebenzene combo

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Re: Homework Help :\
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2013, 01:29:51 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indole

the 3 position of indole is highly nucleophilic and since the aldehyde group is deactivating they should react to form your product

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Re: Homework Help :\
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2013, 04:14:29 PM »
I like what Kriggy said.  That 3-indole position is highly activated.  If you know Suzuki Coupling, I see a 2 step synth, but that is somewhat advanced.  Hope this helps!
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Also-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leimgruber-Batcho_indole_synthesis

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