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Propellane synthesis
« on: March 19, 2014, 11:02:41 AM »
What is the mechanism of the transformation from the upper compound in the presence of MeLi to the propellane?

I thought that the two -CH2-Cl carbons lose a proton and attack the -CBr2 carbon. But how are the two chlorines removed?

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Re: Propellane synthesis
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2014, 06:11:33 PM »
Look up lithium-halogen exchange reactions for some inspiration!
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Re: Propellane synthesis
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2014, 08:23:05 AM »
So lithium exchanges with the two chlorines, and then the product is hydrolyzed to produce the propelanne, right?

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Re: Propellane synthesis
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2014, 08:18:05 PM »
Can you explain where you think a hydrolysis happens?

Note the rate of Li-X exchange X = I>Br>Cl
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Re: Propellane synthesis
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2014, 12:58:47 PM »
The hydrolysis happens at the end, after the two bromines are removed through nucleophilic attacks of carboanions.

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Re: Propellane synthesis
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2014, 03:19:15 PM »
Hey, propellane is one way to synthesize tricyclo[1,1,1]pentane, which is one the the best possible rocket fuels!
As soon as you've filled your test tube, could you produce a few 100t please?  ;D

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Re: Propellane synthesis
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2014, 07:35:55 PM »
For my personal information:

Why are bromo-chloro- reactants so common, rather than all-chloro or all-bromo? Are they (a1) easier to synthesize? Or do they (a2) undergo better controlled reactions?

When LiMe reacts with a thing-Cl, (b1) why isn't thing-Me produced? Does it (b2) need LiMe to be much more abundent than thing-Cl? Or (b3) being a tetramer, LiMe brings at once all the necessary lithium, so that high concentration isn't essential?

With the drawn reactant, once an intermediate dibromo-chloro-lithium-thing is obtained, (c1) why does it eliminate LiBr instead of LiCl? Or (c2) is the spiropentane produced as well?

What would you think of using low-pressure gaseous (d1) K, Cs, Rb or (d2) Zn, Cd instead of LiMe for this propellane synthesis?

Thank you!
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