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Anhydrous Sodium thiosufate Puzzle
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I am reading about Sodium thiosulfate on WIKI and marveling at the various pictures of the structure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_thiosulfate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sodium-thiosulfate-3D-vdW.png
Ball-and-stick model of part of the crystal structure of anhydrous sodium thiosufate Na2[S2O3].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sodium-thiosulfate-xtal-3D-balls.png
Connecting to the link for CAS number 7772-98-7 I am transported to
http://www.commonchemistry.org/ChemicalDetail.aspx?ref=7772-98-7
and I observe the picture of the structure.
I go back and look at WIKI smiles entry and get
[Na+].[Na+].[O-]S([O-])(=O)=S
which produces the picture
I go to
http://www.emolecules.com/
and search for
CAS number 7772-98-7 which I assume is Sodium thiosulfate anhydrous and get the following choices
choice 1
choice 2
choice 3
choice 4
It seems to me that choice 1 and choice 3 are different from all the other images I looked at and I am puzzled.
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Re: Anhydrous Sodium thiosufate Puzzle
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These three are more or less equivalent (and close to reality, with a central S atom, surrounded by 4 others). Charge is not assigned to any particular atoms, you can think about these images as about resonance structures.
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April 05, 2014, 02:09:45 AM »
When I do the pentahydrate version
.O.O.O.O.O.[Na+].[Na+].[O-]S([O-])(=O)=S
I get using smiles
but how do I get what I want using smiles (below is gif not smiles)
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April 05, 2014, 03:25:43 AM »
There's no real control over the depiction, short of perhaps moving the constituents around. Compare
.O.O.O.O.O.[Na+].[Na+].[O-]S([O-])(=O)=S
to
O.O.O.O.O.[Na+].[O-]S([O-])(=O)=S.[Na+]
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