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Offline Mpatas

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Reduction of aromatic compounds
« on: February 10, 2015, 03:44:07 PM »
Why pyridinium salts are easier to reduce than pyridine?

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Re: Reduction of aromatic compounds
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2015, 07:52:58 AM »
Let's look at this from a broad perspective. If reduction reactions were generally additions of electrons, then would it be easier to add electrons to pyridine or a pyridinium salt?
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Re: Reduction of aromatic compounds
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2015, 10:23:54 AM »
@OP, It is a forum rule that you must show your attempt before we can help you.  By the way, do you have any examples in mind from organic or biochemistry?

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Re: Reduction of aromatic compounds
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2015, 07:10:33 AM »
Yeah i reduced pyridine with 1 bar of hydrogen pressure ate RT in the presence of HCl and using PtO2. What i believe is that the  in situ formation of the pyridinium salt reduces the aromaticity of the system making reduction easier.

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Re: Reduction of aromatic compounds
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2015, 08:12:19 AM »
Pyridine is protonated on the lone pair orthogonal to the pi system, without disrupting the aromaticity. Pyridinium ion is isoelectronic with benzene.

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Re: Reduction of aromatic compounds
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2015, 12:25:16 PM »
Thanks for you answer but do you have any suggestions?

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Re: Reduction of aromatic compounds
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2015, 07:00:49 PM »
Having eliminated aromaticity as the answer, how is the pyridinium ion different from pyridine?

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