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Level of education question
« on: October 30, 2015, 04:42:02 PM »
What level of education does it take to express mechanisms mechanisms like as fluent as this guy does?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynBuPEmcjp4
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Re: Level of education question
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2015, 12:43:56 PM »
Since the mechanism is quite known and rather simple (compared to others I´ve seen) I would say Bc or Masters. He did very good job there, its clear and easy to understand

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Re: Level of education question
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2015, 09:23:07 PM »
So you say either a graduate degree in organic chemistry or masters to be able to write out mechanisms as fluently as he does in most of his videos? I was guessing around the same thing too.

I'm currently trying to gather enough resources, and come up with weekly homework assignments and biweekly review assignments to accompany a full organic chemistry I & II (undergraduate) curriculum for myself.

I can find just about everything I need except the hard part is getting worksheets that fit perfectly. I figure around 380 topics from start to finish, do 6 topics a week with homework & practice & review should equal 66 weeks and I will know about as much as an undergraduate. I'd like to aim more towards a graduate though within that timespan. I have enough free time. I'm also trying to gather resources to learn the calculus needed to go along with it. It's kinda hard to put a good curriculum together

I've found this:
http://www.colby.edu/chemistry/OChem/CH241/syllabus.html (organic chem I)
http://www.colby.edu/chemistry/OChem/CH242/syllabus242.pdf (organic chem II)

I have the following books to use:
SOLOMONS Fundamentals of Organic Chemistry 4th Ed
Organic Chemistry by Clayden, Greeves and Warren. 2nd Ed (with solutions manual to accompany)

A LOT of online PDF's downloaded.
One of the math ones that look really good is called: The Chemistry Maths Book by Erich Steiner
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Re: Level of education question
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2015, 03:36:43 AM »
I dont want to be dick or something and I saw only the one video you posted but there is a difference between explaining known mechanisms to someone and trying to devise mechanism for formation of very unexpected product that formed in your reaciton in close to 100% yield. I think I could explain it in a same depth as him given the fact that I can search for the mechanism in books since the mechanism is well known and taught in ochem2. I think the question of required degree is kind of out of place. If you devote your time you can do it without degree while someone with advanced degree will just fail at that task

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Re: Level of education question
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2015, 07:14:22 PM »
That's org II right there. I'm in the class right now. After a while, the concept gets ingrained. You see it over and over. I'm confident that an undergrad can explain it just as well. Communicating effectively is a different story.

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