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Offline carlituz

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Cyclopentadiene from alpha-pinene
« on: October 27, 2015, 11:03:16 AM »
Hi everybody,

I was wondering if it's possible to synthesize cyclopentadiene starting from alpha-pinene commonly found in turpentine oil.
A hypothesis was an isomerization of alpha-pinene to camphene. Camphene should then pass a Retro Diels Alder reaction to give cyclopentadiene and isoprene. Do you think it's possible? And in which conditions (acid, base, catalyst needed)?

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Carlo

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Re: Cyclopentadiene from alpha-pinene
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2015, 01:06:17 PM »
Hi Carlo, welcome!

Independently of the feasibility, I wonder whether this synthesis is economical, because cyclopentadiene too is cheap and abundent as a by-product of naphtha cracking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclopentadiene

I fear that retro Diels-Alder alone doesn't suffice, because of an imbalance of two hydrogen atoms.
C10H16 camphene and alpha-pinene (terpene)
C5H8 isoprene (hemiterpene)
C5H6 cyclopentadiene (not a hemiterpene)

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