November 25, 2024, 03:51:03 PM
Forum Rules: Read This Before Posting


Topic: cyclopropyl phenylmethanol:mass spectrum  (Read 5686 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline gk000

  • New Member
  • **
  • Posts: 3
  • Mole Snacks: +0/-0
cyclopropyl phenylmethanol:mass spectrum
« on: October 03, 2016, 12:22:57 AM »
Hi
Undergrad organic chem
Ive been struggling with working out the fragmentation pattern of my unknown molecule. I definitely know its cyclopropyl phenylmethanol. Just cant figure out some of the fragmentation

Peak    Intensity    Assignment
149   5   C10H12O
131   100   [C10H10]+
120   20   ----
107   7   ------
91   10   [C7H6]+
71   61   

I've calculated the losses from each peak. Between peaks 131 to 120, the loss is 11 which I'm really confused about what would break off. I know m/z 91 is a tropylium ion which would generally break down to a benzyl ion. Not sure if I'm just going about it the wrong way.
Structure image attached
« Last Edit: October 03, 2016, 12:40:26 AM by gk000 »

Offline MOTOBALL

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 382
  • Mole Snacks: +52/-5
Re: cyclopropyl phenylmethanol:mass spectrum
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2016, 03:43:51 PM »
You have started this problem the right way, by tabulating the ions & intensities....BUT note,

1. Highest mass ion is M+. which is at m/z 148 for Molecular formula C10H12O1
2. m/z 149 is due to the 13C and 2H isotopic contributions----ignore it !!
3. your tabulation is now
             m/z
              148   C10H12O1
              131
              120 etc...
                91 is C7H7+ not C7H6

Obviously, m/z 120 is not derived from 131, and 107 is not derived from 120 etc.  In these situations, go to the next higher m/z value----is m/z 120 from m/z 148 ?? Is m/z 107 from 131 or 148 ?

You are almost there, stay with it and it will fall out !!!!!

NB I have assumed electron ionization (which would give M+. at m/z 148; positive chemical ionization WOULD give [M+H]+ at m/z 149) check with prof. or the TA to find out what ionization method was used.

Regards

Offline AWK

  • Retired Staff
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 7976
  • Mole Snacks: +555/-93
  • Gender: Male
Re: cyclopropyl phenylmethanol:mass spectrum
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2016, 04:37:12 PM »
Quote
2. m/z 149 is due to the 13C and 2H isotopic contributions----ignore it !!
?
why m/z 148 and 130 are absent?
AWK

Offline MOTOBALL

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 382
  • Mole Snacks: +52/-5
Re: cyclopropyl phenylmethanol:mass spectrum
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2016, 10:06:15 PM »
why m/z 148 and 130 are absent?

They are absent because it has to be a positive CI mass spectrum. I had initially assumed an EI spectrum, because that is what is almost always presented to undergrad organic students.
That led me to put in the NB, because I started to get second thoughts about the spectrum that he was working with.

Regards

Offline AWK

  • Retired Staff
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 7976
  • Mole Snacks: +555/-93
  • Gender: Male
Re: cyclopropyl phenylmethanol:mass spectrum
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2016, 02:06:24 AM »
Spectrum presented by gk000 is pure (without isotopic contributions). Alcohols very often give m/z M+1 (MH+). This ion eliminates water.
130 = M+-28(C2H4)

My printing error - should be 120
« Last Edit: October 07, 2016, 02:16:11 AM by AWK »
AWK

Offline MOTOBALL

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 382
  • Mole Snacks: +52/-5
Re: cyclopropyl phenylmethanol:mass spectrum
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2016, 02:15:46 PM »
AWK,

I have not run an EI spectrum in more than 25 years, so will take your word for it.
However, we don't want to confuse gk000 with statements like
m/z 130 is M+ - C2H4

Regards

Offline AWK

  • Retired Staff
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 7976
  • Mole Snacks: +555/-93
  • Gender: Male
Re: cyclopropyl phenylmethanol:mass spectrum
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2016, 02:26:00 PM »
Elimination of ethylene is typical for cyclopropane derivatives.
See, eg ethylcyclopropane
http://webbook.nist.gov/cgi/cbook.cgi?ID=C1191964&Mask=200
AWK

Offline MOTOBALL

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 382
  • Mole Snacks: +52/-5
Re: cyclopropyl phenylmethanol:mass spectrum
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2016, 05:45:28 PM »
Yes, but MW is not 158 is it ?

Regards

Offline AWK

  • Retired Staff
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 7976
  • Mole Snacks: +555/-93
  • Gender: Male
Re: cyclopropyl phenylmethanol:mass spectrum
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2016, 02:26:26 AM »
Yes, but MW is not 158 is it ?

Regards
Sorry for my previous fault, but 158 is a back interpretation of this printing error.
AWK

Sponsored Links