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Hydration of But-1-ene
« on: June 04, 2006, 06:43:57 AM »
Hi guys, would this reaction be possible:

CH3CH2CH=CH2 + OH-   -->   CH3CH2CH2CH2OH

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Re: Hydration of But-1-ene
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2006, 06:50:07 AM »
I sincerely doubt it: first of all, you need an acid (and, obviously, water). Moreover, you yield a secondary alcohol.

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Re: Hydration of But-1-ene
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2006, 06:59:48 AM »
Ok assuming that the reaction takes places with H3PO4 acting as a catalyst.

Apparently the only answer possible was:

CH3CH2CH(OH)CH3

IMHO, they're both isomers and hence both would be acceptable.

BTW what's a secondary alcohol?

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Re: Hydration of But-1-ene
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2006, 07:02:29 AM »
A secondary alcohol is exactly what you've drawn. :)

I've always used H2SO4 rather thatn H3PO4 for this reaction, but I don't see anything against your approach.

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Re: Hydration of But-1-ene
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2006, 07:10:51 AM »
Damn multichoice questions!!

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Re: Hydration of But-1-ene
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2006, 07:11:06 AM »
IMHO, they're both isomers and hence both would be acceptable.

BTW what's a secondary alcohol?

The reaction is regioselective (it's an example of Markovnikov addition). If every chemical reaction produced a mixture of all the stereoisomers of the product, the world would be a very different place.

A primary alcohol is an alcohol in which the OH group is bonded to a carbon which is only bonded to one other carbon.
eg. CH3CH2CH2CH2OH

A secondary alcohol is an alcohol in which the OH group is bonded to a carbon which is bonded to two other carbons.
eg. CH3CH2CH(OH)CH3

A tertiary alcohol is an alcohol in which the OH group is bonded to a carbon which is bonded to three other carbons.
eg. CH3C(OH)(CH3)CH3
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Re: Hydration of But-1-ene
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2006, 07:19:07 AM »
IMHO, they're both isomers and hence both would be acceptable.

BTW what's a secondary alcohol?

The reaction is regioselective (it's an example of Markovnikov addition). If every chemical reaction produced a mixture of all the stereoisomers of the product, the world would be a very different place.

A primary alcohol is an alcohol in which the OH group is bonded to a carbon which is only bonded to one other carbon.
eg. CH3CH2CH2CH2OH

A secondary alcohol is an alcohol in which the OH group is bonded to a carbon which is bonded to two other carbons.
eg. CH3CH2CH(OH)CH3

A tertiary alcohol is an alcohol in which the OH group is bonded to a carbon which is bonded to three other carbons.
eg. CH3C(OH)(CH3)CH3

How would I know what the products of the reaction is going to be?

The whole question in its entirety reads:

CH3CH2CH2CH3 Cracking -> H2 + W

W + HCl -> X + Y
(X = CH3CH2CH2CH2Cl)

Y + OH- -> Z

What must W and Z be?

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Re: Hydration of But-1-ene
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2006, 07:32:51 AM »
I think W is but-1-ene, but I don't think Y is but-1-ene.

X is the primary chlorobutane, so I think Y is the secondary chlorobutane (addition of HCl to but-1-ene has formed a mixture of the two isomers - I expect Y is the major product though).

The secondary chlorobutane will react with OH- to form the secondary alcohol only.
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Re: Hydration of But-1-ene
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2006, 09:24:26 AM »
Hi guys, would this reaction be possible:

CH3CH2CH=CH2 + OH-   -->   CH3CH2CH2CH2OH

Thanks

Out of curiosity, which trial paper is this from, if taken from any?

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