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what is the melting point for a metal? when something starts to melt or when it has fully melted?

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Re: melting point? when is starts to melt or when it has all melted?
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2007, 12:28:21 PM »
any pure substance has one distinct melting point. only with mixtures you'd have melting intervals
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Re: melting point? when is starts to melt or when it has all melted?
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2007, 08:59:29 PM »
To determine the melting point of a substance you heat it very slowly and watch it closely as it melts.  You then record the temperature that it begins to melt and the temperature that it has been completely melted.  That range of temperatures that you record is the melting point.  For a pure substance the melting point can be as small as a few tenths of a degree (if you heat really slowly).  For a mixture/impure sample, the range can be fairly large (10 or more degrees).

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Re: melting point? when is starts to melt or when it has all melted?
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2007, 03:20:57 AM »
To determine the melting point of a substance you heat it very slowly and watch it closely as it melts.  You then record the temperature that it begins to melt and the temperature that it has been completely melted.  That range of temperatures that you record is the melting point.  For a pure substance the melting point can be as small as a few tenths of a degree (if you heat really slowly).  For a mixture/impure sample, the range can be fairly large (10 or more degrees).

i dont get the bit in bold. how can a 'range' be a 'point'???

and would it be best to heat a metal up till it melts, record, then record to the temp that it freezes at to get the most accurate results?

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Re: melting point? when is starts to melt or when it has all melted?
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2007, 03:30:25 AM »
Most materials actually have a range of temperatures where it melts instead of a single point. This is usually due to impurities in the material.
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Re: melting point? when is starts to melt or when it has all melted?
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2007, 11:58:32 AM »

and would it be best to heat a metal up till it melts, record, then record to the temp that it freezes at to get the most accurate results?


This has difficulties of its own, in that you can end up measuring a hysteresis.  The temperature at which the solid melts can be different from the temperature at which the liquid freezes due to super-cooling of the liquid or super-heating of the solid.

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