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Offline black_squirrel

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Oxidation of benzylamine by CrO3/H2SO4
« on: November 26, 2007, 04:43:53 AM »
Okay so i'm kinda stuck. I reacted benzylamine with CrO3 in H2SO4 (Jones Test). The orange color of chromic acid remained but I also got a little bit of white precipitate.

So i know that CrO3 should oxidize the benzylic carbon to a ketone and keep the -NH2 intact. Is that the white precipitate I saw?

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Re: Oxidation of benzylamine by CrO3/H2SO4
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2007, 12:51:41 PM »
Hi,man...You mean that benzylamine was transfomed to phenyl formaide after oxidized by Jones eagent?
If it worked, that will be a great idea!!! ;D Have you ever analyzed it or them you had got?
In fact, I dont think you have got the desired compound. Electron density on N is largely more than carbnon, so I think -NH2 will be oxidized primarily, to produce nitroso or nitro or other intermediates. The precipitate you have got may be single compound or mixture. That's all, thx.

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Re: Oxidation of benzylamine by CrO3/H2SO4
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2007, 03:33:58 PM »
I think you got benzoic acid which has limited water-solubility. Oxidation of C6H5CH2NH2 by CrO3 like that of C6H5CH2OH (benzyl alcohol) no oxidation of the nitrogen.

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Re: Oxidation of benzylamine by CrO3/H2SO4
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2007, 04:10:01 PM »
this is what i think happened and it matches physical observations. is this a no go?

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Re: Oxidation of benzylamine by CrO3/H2SO4
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2007, 05:57:53 PM »

Dear Black_Squirrel;

I have not only a little trouble to believe in “your” mechanism, because it is (at least for me) more common, that –NH2 group is much more reactive as any –CH2 group.
Therefore I agree with Shelanachium with the only exception, that the –NH2 group is prior oxidised to at least N2 and finally the remaining carbon is oxidised similar to the production of Benzoic Acid from Toluene.

But the physically data (Bp, UV-Spectrum, IR, etc.) should be enough different for Identification.

Good Luck!
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Re: Oxidation of benzylamine by CrO3/H2SO4
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2007, 11:17:19 PM »
i didn't see any gas evolution..? But yeah, benzoic acid makes more sense. Thank you all.

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