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Acetic Acid % Ionization
« on: February 04, 2008, 09:00:13 PM »
The problem: What percentage of acetic acid is ionized at pH 5.0? The pka of acetic acid is 4.76.

My Attempt:

I started with the Henderson Hasselbalch equation:

pH = pka + log ( [A-][H+]/[HA] )
5 = 4.76 + log ( [A-][H+]/[HA] )

For percent ionization, I think I need to solve for the ratio, [A-]/[HA]. But what about the [H+]? Alternatively I have seen a equation for % ionization but I have no clue why it works. I was hoping I could derive it from first principles or the HH equation. Can anyone help?

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Re: Acetic Acid % Ionization
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2008, 09:01:03 PM »
The problem: What percentage of acetic acid is ionized at pH 5.0? The pka of acetic acid is 4.76.

My Attempt:

I started with the Henderson Hasselbalch equation:

pH = pka + log ( [A-][H+]/[HA] )
5 = 4.76 + log ( [A-][H+]/[HA] )


For percent ionization, I think I need to solve for the ratio, [A-]/[HA]. But what about the [H+]? Alternatively I have seen a equation for % ionization but I have no clue why it works. I was hoping I could derive it from first the HH equation. Can anyone help?

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Re: Acetic Acid % Ionization
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2008, 01:39:25 AM »
[H3O+] = cα=Ka(1-α)/α
hence
α/(1-α)=[H3O+]/Ka
If α is small then 1-α ≈1
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Re: Acetic Acid % Ionization
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2008, 01:57:15 AM »
Thanks for the reply AWK. I don't think I've stated by question very well. So here's another shot:

I'm working on a chemistry problem and I'm trying to follow the derivation for % ionization (of a weak acid or base) but I can't seem to understand how rearrangement of eq. 6 results in eq. 7.

In more general terms, I started with the Hendreson Hasselbalch equation:

pH = pka + log(A-/AH)

What I want to find is the % ionization: A-/(AH + A-)

Attached is the equation for percent ionization but I can't figure out how you derive it from the HH equation.

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Re: Acetic Acid % Ionization
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2008, 02:30:50 AM »
Put (6) into denominator of left side of (7) and rearrange
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Re: Acetic Acid % Ionization
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2008, 02:41:40 AM »
Thanks!

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Re: Acetic Acid % Ionization
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2008, 04:49:43 AM »
Note, my first post is absolutely equivalent to your derivation without using HH equation
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