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Common Ion Effect / Buffer Solutions
« on: February 29, 2008, 12:02:43 AM »
Can someone please explain what's going on in this problem, and how you'd set up the chemical equation and ICE table? Once I get there, I can solve it fairly easily, but I'm confused on this one. Thanks in advance to all help.

What is the final pH if 0.03 mol HCl is added to 0.500 L of a buffer solution that is 0.24 M NH3 and 0.20 M NH4Cl?

Again, I'm not asking anyone to solve the entire problem, but rather just help me set it up. Thanks!

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Re: Common Ion Effect / Buffer Solutions
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2008, 12:34:47 AM »
Which buffer component NH3 or NH4+ will the H+ be a common ion for?

Then use that equation to start your ice table

Or have you heard of the Henderson-Hasselbach equation?

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Re: Common Ion Effect / Buffer Solutions
« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2008, 12:39:36 AM »
Which buffer component NH3 or NH4+ will the H+ be a common ion for?

How do I know which component the H+ is a common ion for?

Also, what did do you do with the HCl?


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Re: Common Ion Effect / Buffer Solutions
« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2008, 12:46:52 AM »
HCl will provide H+ that will affect the buffer and so the pH

Can you write out the ionization equations for

NH3  +  H2O -->

NH4+  -->

then look at the products and see which one H+ is in - that is the equation you need to use for the ICE table. With HCl you are adding more H+ - that is the common ion when you add acid to a buffer.

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Re: Common Ion Effect / Buffer Solutions
« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2008, 12:53:30 AM »
HCl will provide H+ that will affect the buffer and so the pH

First off, why do you not include the Cl- at all in your equation?

Can you write out the ionization equations for

NH3  +  H2O -->

NH4+  -->

then look at the products and see which one H+ is in - that is the equation you need to use for the ICE table. With HCl you are adding more H+ - that is the common ion when you add acid to a buffer.

NH3 + H2O --> NH4+ + OH-

Not so sure on this next one:
NH4+ --> NH3- + H+ ?

Sorry for all the questions, but I'm absolutely clueless on this one.

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Re: Common Ion Effect / Buffer Solutions
« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2008, 01:02:50 AM »
First off, why do you not include the Cl- at all in your equation?

Not so sure on this next one:
NH4+ --> NH3- + H+ ?

Sorry for all the questions, but I'm absolutely clueless on this one.

Cl- is too weak of a base to affect the pH - its a spectator ion

there is no charge on NH3, other than that, (fix the subscript on H) the equation is correct

- your textbook must have an example of adding and acid or base to a buffer and subsequent calculations.

- look up the Henderson-Hasselbach equation, its very useful in buffer calculations

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Re: Common Ion Effect / Buffer Solutions
« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2008, 08:26:19 PM »
Okay, here's what I get so far when I work it out:

NH4Cl --> NH4+ + Cl-
(Cl- is conjugate of strong acid, so not included in reaction equation.)

     NH3 + H2O <--> NH4+ + OH-
I:  0.24                   0.20      0
C:  -x                       +x      +x
E: 0.24-x               0.20+x     x

Kb= 1.8x10-5 = (0.20)x/0.24, so x=2.16x10-5

After addition of 0.03 mol HCl:
             NH3 + H+  <--->  NH4+ +   OH-
Initial: 0.12 mol    0         0.4 mol
Add:                +0.03
Change: -0.03   -0.03      +0.03
Ntrlzatn: 0.09      0          0.43
Molarity: 0.18 M   0 M      0.86 M

pH = pKa + log ([base]/[acid])

Is all this correct so far? If so, where do I go from there?

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Re: Common Ion Effect / Buffer Solutions
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2008, 04:33:59 AM »
E: 0.24-x               0.20+x     x

Kb= 1.8x10-5 = (0.20)x/0.24, so x=2.16x10-5

Note that x is so small - compared with total ammonia concentration - that it can be neglected. That means that you in fact already know concentrations and no ICE calculations are needed.

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After addition of 0.03 mol HCl:
             NH3 + H+  <--->  NH4+ +   OH-
Initial: 0.12 mol    0         0.4 mol
Add:                +0.03
Change: -0.03   -0.03      +0.03
Ntrlzatn: 0.09      0          0.43

These are your concentrations of ammonia and NH4+ after neutralization. Which one is acid and which one is conjugated base?

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pH = pKa + log ([base]/[acid])

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