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Where am I going wrong with solution calculations
« on: May 19, 2008, 10:37:51 AM »
I'm ready to pull my hair out  :-\

These are the first two of my questions in my assignment:

Determine the weight of potassium hydroxide required to prepare 40ml of an 0.02M solution.

This is how I read it:

I need to work out how many grams I need out of 1 mole of KOH. 1 mole of KOH = 56.11gm. Therefore, a 1 Molar solution would require 56.11gm. However, I want a lesser concentration and volume so I should end up with a smaller number of grams, i.e a figure under 56.11gm.

I know all units must be the same in calculations, i.e I can't calculate using kg's and g's or litres and mls so need to change them to the same unit.

I know one mole of a substance is what is required to make a one litre molar solution

I know the formulas concentration = moles/volume (c = n/v) and C1V1=C2V2. However, I do not quite understand where you apply them.

My next question is "What weight of NaOH is required to prepare
a) 2 litres of 0.05M solution
b) 1 litre of 0.1M solution

A) is much like my first question

B) the answer is 4gm. I know this because what it is asking (I talk myself through these!) is that I want 1/10th (0.01M) of a 1M solution and 1/10th of 40gm is 4gm so ratio is what I used to determine this. However, I don't know how to calculate it and have to show my workings.

So far i have managed to smoke too many ciggies and use a large quanity of paper, ink, time battery power and liquid paper and still am no nearer to my answer.  :P

Please can someone explain it to me, don't just give me the answer.

Many thanks.

BTW I am 40 and am a nurse and have returned to study Lab technology and haven't done chemistry since I did my high school exams in 1985 where i managed to get a huge 18% final mark...oh the shame  :'(

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Re: Where am I going wrong with solution calculations
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2008, 10:58:14 AM »
I need to work out how many grams I need out of 1 mole of KOH. 1 mole of KOH = 56.11gm. Therefore, a 1 Molar solution would require 56.11gm.

And what else? What is the definition of molarity?

However, I want a lesser concentration and volume so I should end up with a smaller number of grams, i.e a figure under 56.11gm.

Correct

I know the formulas concentration = moles/volume (c = n/v) and C1V1=C2V2. However, I do not quite understand where you apply them.

C1V1=C2V2 is not really relevant here, in my opinion, just concentrate on
concentration = moles/volume (with applicable units) for now

My next question is "What weight of NaOH is required to prepare
a) 2 litres of 0.05M solution
b) 1 litre of 0.1M solution

A) is much like my first question

B) the answer is 4gm. I know this because what it is asking (I talk myself through these!) is that I want 1/10th (0.01M) of a 1M solution and 1/10th of 40gm is 4gm so ratio is what I used to determine this. However, I don't know how to calculate it and have to show my workings.

In some ways, you have given your workings for B here. Consider the notes at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Concentration&oldid=211619211

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Re: Where am I going wrong with solution calculations
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2008, 11:33:08 AM »
Just to add on only  :)

n = cv

n = mass/Mr

n = no.of particles/Avogadro's constant

n = volume of gas/molar volume

as long as you are able to get the moles, it's easy to convert to the one you want  :)
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Re: Where am I going wrong with solution calculations
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2008, 09:07:33 PM »
Determine the weight of potassium hydroxide required to prepare 40ml of an 0.02M solution

C=n/v

0.02= n/40

n= 40/0.02

n=0.0005 m

so 56.11 x 0.0005 = 0.028gm KOH

Is that correct? It seems an awful small figure but then it's small volume and concentration

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Re: Where am I going wrong with solution calculations
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2008, 02:56:28 AM »
0.02= n/40

n= 40/0.02

No. Check your math.

Honestly nothing is OK. Where did you get 0.0005 from? No matter how I try, I can't get to this number.
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Re: Where am I going wrong with solution calculations
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2008, 10:24:26 AM »
Do you know, I honestly can't remember where I got it from  :(

I just don't understand it. Sorry. I've got 15 questions to do, so far I haven't even got one done.

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Re: Where am I going wrong with solution calculations
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2008, 11:00:08 AM »
Concentration (in molarity):     # of mols              
                                      volume of solution (in L)


molarity * volume = # of mols


     # of mols               * volume  of solution (in L) = # of mols
volume of solution (in L)

How many mols of KOH are needed? What is the mass of that?

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Re: Where am I going wrong with solution calculations
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2008, 11:10:53 AM »
molarity x volume = no. moles

0.02 x 0.04 = 0.0008 moles.

56.11 x 0.0008 = 0.044888gm

= 0.045 gm of KOH needed.

I know that's correct because I knew the answer all along, I just didn't know how to get there!

So, it looks like I got my c=n/v wrong when changing it around to get the missing figure. If that is where I went wrong then I guess i just have to keep practising the interchanging.

Thankyou so much.


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Re: Where am I going wrong with solution calculations
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2008, 12:30:16 PM »
Always put your units and cancel them, and it will tell you if you did your math wrong!

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