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Offline wk1234

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Simple Enthalpy Question
« on: June 09, 2008, 06:31:21 PM »
I have tried to do the following question but i cannot seem to work it out.

2 ZbO(s) + ½ O2(g) -> Zb2O3(s)            –128.0 kJ
ZbO(s) + ½ O2(g)  -> ZbO2(s)                –380.0 kJ
2 ZbO(s) + 3/2 O2(g)  -> Zb2O5(s)          –344.5 kJ

find the value for:
Zb2O3(s) + O2(g)  ->  Zb2O5(s)    = enthalpy for this?

I have tried using hess's law but i cannot seem to find the enthalpy for the last equation. I know flipping first  equation gives you the Zb2O3(s) on the left side and cancels a lot of it out but i dont know how to solve it from there. (it cancels out ½ O2(g) and two ZbO(s) from both sides yet still leaving one on the left which i dont know what to do with)

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Re: Simple Enthalpy Question
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2008, 06:38:30 PM »
Try multiplying everything by 2 to get rid of the decimal, see if that makes it any clearer.

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Re: Simple Enthalpy Question
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2008, 06:49:24 PM »
thx for replying. It doesn't help much by multiplying b/c i only get double of what i cant seem to get rid of.

I got Zb2O3(s) and  Zb2O5(s) in this right spots but i also have:

- ZbO2 which has no counter part to get rid of it. (on right)
- 3/2 O2 (left)
- ZbO(s) (left)

Any way to cancel them that i dont know about? Like can you split ZbO2 apart and get rid of O in that to cancel out the other one? Thx for is greatly appreciated.

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Re: Simple Enthalpy Question
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2008, 07:08:14 PM »
I'm also curious as to what to do with that ZbO2(s)... is this problem from a book or one your teacher gave to you? Maybe there was a typo?

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Re: Simple Enthalpy Question
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2008, 07:24:56 PM »
Ya thats the one i was wondering about. There is no typo in here and i cannot seem to  get rid of that one! I got rid of almost everything else.

Its an online hw problem.

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Re: Simple Enthalpy Question
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2008, 08:10:08 PM »
Of the three reactions with enthalpies you have, you only need the first and last one. A quick glance and I do not think you even have to do any stoichiometry either.


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Re: Simple Enthalpy Question
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2008, 08:22:53 PM »
Of the three reactions with enthalpies you have, you only need the first and last one. A quick glance and I do not think you even have to do any stoichiometry either.
Nope, no stoichiometry.  Ignore the middle equation.

EDIT:  Stoichiometry, not stereochemistry, lol

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Re: Simple Enthalpy Question
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2008, 08:24:35 PM »
Aww come on, I was trying to leave them something to think about even if it is obvious to others!


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Re: Simple Enthalpy Question
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2008, 08:35:10 PM »
Ah ok lol. I had a weird idea i needed all of them :(

Well thx for the tip!!

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Re: Simple Enthalpy Question
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2008, 09:27:03 PM »
Aww come on, I was trying to leave them something to think about even if it is obvious to others!
???  What more did I reveal? :(

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